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International Schools - What kind of post-BA education?
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thebektionary



Joined: 11 May 2011

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:22 pm    Post subject: International Schools - What kind of post-BA education? Reply with quote

I'm currently teaching in a middle school for GEPIK but I have my sights on the horizon. I don't want to be stuck in this kind of thing forever; however, I really love teaching so I want to pursue higher education in order to get a better teaching job.

I've thought about it a lot over the past couple of weeks and I've decided that I really want to get into teaching in international schools. Everyone I know who does it loves it and it just seems like the perfect fit for me. I don't want to return to America, I want to continue living in different countries, and I want to continue teaching.

I am looking into online masters programs now and I've found one that I'm interested in. I just want to make sure that the degree I get will help me get a job in an international school. What do they usually require? The masters I am looking at is a Masters in Education with a specialization in International Teaching but it does not lead to licensure. Do you need licensure to work in an international school or just a masters? Is it better to get a masters in a specific subject?

Also, if you could recommend any good programs I'd appreciate it a lot. Thank you!

EDIT: I found most of the information here:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=223486&highlight=international+schools

I'm still interested in getting a masters AND licensure, so like I said before, if anyone has any programs they can recommend I'd appreciate it.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: International Schools - What kind of post-BA education? Reply with quote

thebektionary wrote:
I'm currently teaching in a middle school for GEPIK but I have my sights on the horizon. I don't want to be stuck in this kind of thing forever; however, I really love teaching so I want to pursue higher education in order to get a better teaching job.

I've thought about it a lot over the past couple of weeks and I've decided that I really want to get into teaching in international schools. Everyone I know who does it loves it and it just seems like the perfect fit for me. I don't want to return to America, I want to continue living in different countries, and I want to continue teaching.

I am looking into online masters programs now and I've found one that I'm interested in. I just want to make sure that the degree I get will help me get a job in an international school. What do they usually require? The masters I am looking at is a Masters in Education with a specialization in International Teaching but it does not lead to licensure. Do you need licensure to work in an international school or just a masters? Is it better to get a masters in a specific subject?

Also, if you could recommend any good programs I'd appreciate it a lot. Thank you!

EDIT: I found most of the information here:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=223486&highlight=international+schools

I'm still interested in getting a masters AND licensure, so like I said before, if anyone has any programs they can recommend I'd appreciate it.


http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/en/info/popup/icis/e_7_pop_en.html

look down to #2599

외국인학교ㆍ외국교육기관ㆍ국제고등학교 교사[foreigners' school � foreign educational institution � international high school teacher]

ㆍ외국인학교[외국인유치원] 교사ㆍ교감ㆍ교장[foreigners' school[foreigners' kindergarten] teacher � vice principal � principal]
ㆍ외국교육기관 교사ㆍ교감ㆍ교장[foreign educational institution teacher � vice principal � principal]
ㆍ국제고등학교 교사ㆍ교감ㆍ교장 [international high school teacher � vice principal � principal]

requirements for the visa:
외국교육기관
- 학사 및 경력2년 이상
- 해당국 교원자격
[foreign educational institution
- bachelor's degree and two years' career or more
- teacher's license in home country
]
ㆍ국제고등학교
- 외국인교원
우리나라 교원자격 또는 해당국 교원자격 및 경력3년
- 외국인 강사 : 학사이상
[� international high school
- foreign teacher :

Korean teacher's license / teacher's license in home country and 3 years' career
- foreign instructor : bachelor's degree or higher]


As an American your home country licensure will vary from state to state but look at doing the PRAXIS tests: http://www.ets.org/praxis rather than a PGCE / /B.Ed add-on to your degree.

Nothing wrong with the masters in education but they are long on the theory and really short on the practice.

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thebektionary



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard from someone who did the program I'm interested in that this particular program is heavy on practice and light on theory.
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thebektionary



Joined: 11 May 2011

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I can get licensed through this Praxis test? Do you think it's better to take this test than the Massachusetts one?
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almosthome



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:12 pm    Post subject: Licensure Reply with quote

Passing the PRAXIS tests will not automatically qualify you for licensure. Florida, IMO, has the 'easiest' and cheapest alternative certification program, but there is still a lot to it:

http://education.fiu.edu/certification.html
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thebektionary



Joined: 11 May 2011

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I'm actually from the Miami area! I knew that FIU offered it but I thought that it was just in TESOL. I'll have to check it out further.

And no wonder why Florida has the easiest licensure program. That explains everything Rolling Eyes Our education system is absolutely terrible.
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staygold



Joined: 18 Aug 2012

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really interested in this as well. I found the Teacher Ready program which is also based in Flordia, but you can do your observations and teaching in an international school. You have the option of getting a Master's with the university they work with once you complete the program.
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PatrickGHBusan



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Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MA + Certification is the way to go it you wish to teach at good international schools in different countries.

If that is your choice then the educational investment will pay off.

Being certified opens all sorts of doors.
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thebektionary



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's definitely what I am going to do, I just need to find the best and most affordable way to do it.
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thebektionary



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, staygold, this is fantastic. Thank you so much. It's really affordable. To get my masters through Framingham's program in Seoul and my teacher's certification through this, it would only cost a little over 10,000 dollars and I could stay here the whole time... amazing.
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climber159



Joined: 02 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is where I was a few years back. I moved back to Massachusetts to do another masters and earn teaching credentials. Whatever information you found that indicated a Massachusetts license is had with only taking the MTEL exams is wrong. Yes, a preliminary license may be obtained by taking the MTELs, but you still need to complete a teacher preparation program (including a teaching practicum) at a university to obtain your initial license. This license is then good for 5 years of teaching in Massachusetts (if you never teach in Massachusetts, then it's good forever).

I currently teach in an international school now and can say that this has been one of the best career decisions I've made. I love my job, I love how much I can travel, and I earn a very good living.

The good international schools are quite competitive so having a masters degree as well as teaching credentials will certainly make you a more attractive candidate.

pm me if you've got more questions.
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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Concur with all the above posts. They will be looking at classroom experience teaching the target subject in a Western School, and in order to get that you will need the teaching cert.
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thebektionary



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just applied for the Teacher Ready program and when I finish that (or towards the end of it) I'm going to enroll in the University of West Florida's online Masters of Education program. I'm really excited about all the opportunities that will open up for me as a result of this and happy to be freed of that depressing, "What am I going to do next? ...Well I can't really do anything..." stuck-in-prison feeling about jobs.
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timhorton



Joined: 07 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
MA + Certification is the way to go it you wish to teach at good international schools in different countries.

If that is your choice then the educational investment will pay off.

Being certified opens all sorts of doors.



This.
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qwunk89



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the TeacherReady program and am currently working on my MA in Elementary Ed online through UWF. With TeacherReady, I worked with an international school in Thailand. Upon completion, the TeacherReady program leads to certification (have to take state tests, not Praxis in FL) and will also count for 12 credits towards your MA at UWF (about 1/3). TeacherReady was very organized; the two grad classes I have taken at UWF, not so much (although I had the same prof for both classes). Feel free to PM me.
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