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jondepoer
Joined: 02 May 2010
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 Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:24 pm Post subject: This HAS to be the least reassuring job post I've ever seen. |
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The "Current Teacher�s Testimony" is absolutely hilarious. It seems like the guy made it just positive enough to pass the filter of the barely-literate director, but negative enough to say "RUN, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!" to anybody with a brain.
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=51750 |
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IanChops
Joined: 19 Mar 2009
Location: Pyeongchon, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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---We have introduced Saturday courses
---Furnished dormitory room.
---To be perfectly honest, the schedule changes quite a lot and any explanation I might try to offer you here will just confuse you further.
----the school pays a 250,000 Won housing allowance |
Yeah all in all I think I'd give this one a pass. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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That is a good one.
I thought you were going to link to this one: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=51594
To be fair it is a position for someone willing to do missionary work (I think). So the salary would usually be a bit lower. But this was the part that made me laugh:
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Korean W1,500,000 p.m. (W500,000 p.m. enough to live in Korea. Salary may be paid incrementally during the month because of shortage of funds. ANCA now registered as a mission so finances may improve as churches begin supporting this ministry.)
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Sounds like you might not get paid at all! |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: This HAS to be the least reassuring job post I've ever s |
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| jondepoer wrote: |
The "Current Teacher�s Testimony" is absolutely hilarious. It seems like the guy made it just positive enough to pass the filter of the barely-literate director, but negative enough to say "RUN, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!" to anybody with a brain.
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=51750 |
Not saying that the job looks good or anything, but the Current Teacher's Testimony actually seems quite honest and up-front about things. There are pros and cons pointed out, and really, most of the cons aren't all that bad. Nothing there that warranted "Run for your life!"
In fact, personally, *I* would be more likely to consider this job as a result of the testimony. Honesty, warts and all, makes me more likely to trust management. Perhaps you were not the target audience.... |
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jondepoer
Joined: 02 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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The jobs that people actually accept here are a continued source of amusement for me. If I worked at a horrible hagwon (which I don't), my "testimony" would go something like this:
"I'd like to introduce you to the school where I work now. The accommodations, while extremely small (to be honest), and having some issues with wind and rain whistling through (to be honest), is quite pleasant on sunny days, as part of the roof is missing, allowing the sun to shine in, not unlike the Pantheon in Rome.
The schedule, to be honest, changes often. This is the price you pay for working in such a progressive, fast paced environment. You'll rack up an enormous amount of overtime hours. I keep track of them with scratches on the bathroom wall. Why, I should be able to retire when I return home. The boss says he'll put the check in the mail the day I leave! Oh, I quiver just thinking about it.
The location, to be honest, is not the greatest for living, as there are no shops, and nothing to do, but you can find everything you need for a happy life at the local Mini Stop. As the school is perched on a peak next to an oil refinery, transportation can be difficult. However, with even a light snowfall, you can get most places by toboggan. However, if you work here for a couple of years, the boss will give you permission to pay for your own apartment, minus a 100,000 housing allowance.
Shared laundry facilities with the brothel next door. Take showers the natural way, with a punctured emart bag filled with water you boiled on the stove.
...I really don't have time to do this justice. Anyone care to continue it? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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My first job in Korea included these highlights:
A competitive salary--- if they were competing to offer the lowest then yes--- 1.6 million per month
A low income tax---Well yes 7% income tax is low...just not for this job in Korea.
No funny deductions from your pay---Yes, pension or medical insurance are just scams...
Friendly roommates---Shared housing with 2 other people one of whom was a rabid smoker.
Opportunities for overtime--- Occasional Saturday work and yes OT was to be had...just not the pay.
Assist highly motivated students in their study of the English language---Every Friday collect and correct journals...and comments had to be at least one paragraph in length (roughly about 90-100 journals)..there goes most of Saturday. And that's if you could read what they wrote in the first place.
Educating young minds is its own reward---no severance pay.
Good times...good times. |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| jondepoer wrote: |
The jobs that people actually accept here are a continued source of amusement for me. If I worked at a horrible hagwon (which I don't), my "testimony" would go something like this:
"I'd like to introduce you to the school where I work now. The accommodations, while extremely small (to be honest), and having some issues with wind and rain whistling through (to be honest), is quite pleasant on sunny days, as part of the roof is missing, allowing the sun to shine in, not unlike the Pantheon in Rome.
The schedule, to be honest, changes often. This is the price you pay for working in such a progressive, fast paced environment. You'll rack up an enormous amount of overtime hours. I keep track of them with scratches on the bathroom wall. Why, I should be able to retire when I return home. The boss says he'll put the check in the mail the day I leave! Oh, I quiver just thinking about it.
The location, to be honest, is not the greatest for living, as there are no shops, and nothing to do, but you can find everything you need for a happy life at the local Mini Stop. As the school is perched on a peak next to an oil refinery, transportation can be difficult. However, with even a light snowfall, you can get most places by toboggan. However, if you work here for a couple of years, the boss will give you permission to pay for your own apartment, minus a 100,000 housing allowance.
Shared laundry facilities with the brothel next door. Take showers the natural way, with a punctured emart bag filled with water you boiled on the stove.
...I really don't have time to do this justice. Anyone care to continue it? |
Wow -- you can write some bitter, sarcastic fiction there, jon...are you suggesting that your hyperbolic rant above is similar to the testimony in the job ad you linked? It's not.
I'm not saying the job is great -- I wouldn't take it -- but the teacher testimony section actually improved the ad, in my view. Barhoppers, backpackers, and slackers would run away from that place -- which, ya know, is kind of a good thing for the folks that post that ad.
People who take their teaching seriously, are looking for a quieter place to work, and want to have a pretty fair amount of overtime pay might be more interested. I mean, I think 100 hours a month is pretty standard for hakwon teaching jobs, but this job is 80 hours a month...so if you are working 100 hours, the pay jumps up to about 3.1 million a month -- almost a million won above average for the time...and 9 weeks of vacation?
Yes, I have better, too, but then, I have been here for quite a while...but for a new-ish person to Korea, there are a LOT of worse jobs on offer, with less honest people trying to fill them. You held this job up as an example of an extremely bad job and advertisement, when it is actually significantly better than average.
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jondepoer
Joined: 02 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Just engaging in a little folly. As I mentioned, I'm quite happy with my employment right now. Just having a little fun. |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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LOL. I didn't read the link, I just saw the title and posters comments and I thought: "This sounds like a job at Hankuk University." When I clicked on the ad and it was indeed HUFs I smiled to myself.
There is no worse job in all of Korea.
Avoid HUFS at all costs! |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
There is no worse job in all of Korea.
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Ever work at a Wonderland?  |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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There is no worse job in all of Korea.
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Ever work at a Wonderland? |
No but, unless I'm wrong, at least Wonderland provides airfare (HUFS does not). Wonderland also provides a furnished accommodation. (HUFS provides an unfurnished dormitory room)....I guess we can consider HUFS the unigwon equivalent of Wonderland - just without a furnished apartment and airfare. 
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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When I worked at Wonderland (first job in Korea -- I had NO idea), I was put into an 8-pyeong apartment with another fellow. My "furniture" was a mattress on the floor (since my bedroom was too small to fit the frame), a kitchen table and two chairs that had been picked out of the trash, a mini-fridge, and another trash-rescue "desk." My roomie had a bed with a frame, and another trash-rescue desk. The desk chairs were the kitchen chairs.
I was given a split-shift, 9 am until 10 pm, and my apartment was 20 minutes from the school by subway, or nearly an hour's walk. I worked Saturdays, too, and I had to serve the kindergarteners their snacks during my "lunch" break. Oh, did I mention I had 3 hours of kindy a day as part of my split?
HUFs may not be good, but it still sounds hella better.... |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
My first job in Korea included these highlights:
A competitive salary--- if they were competing to offer the lowest then yes--- 1.6 million per month
A low income tax---Well yes 7% income tax is low...just not for this job in Korea. |
lol.
What cracks me up is the whole advertising of "Places to see in wonderful Korea" then they refuse to give you even a single day off in the ensuing year to go and see aforementioned places. |
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Spazdarn
Joined: 05 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:48 am Post subject: |
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The horror stories, I don't know how good I've got it from the looks of things...
Getting stiffed over holiday time is about as bad as I'll get, apartment is class, people are nice. Hagwon hours don't really bother me as it's cold but finishing school at 8:30pm during the summer will probably suck alright. |
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