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Will it be possible for both of us to work in South Korea?

 
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Duval



Joined: 11 Feb 2013
Location: Glasgow, Scotland

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:12 am    Post subject: Will it be possible for both of us to work in South Korea? Reply with quote

We are considering moving to South Korea in about a year.
And our situation then should be the following:

Myself:

    - Lived in Scotland for 5 years.
    - Born in Switzerland, British Passport Holder.
    - Bachelor of Science in Business Information System from a Swiss university.
    - Master of Science in Business Information System from a Swiss university.
    - Post Graduate Diploma in Education from the University of Glasgow, Scotland, UK.
    - Two years experience as a Computing Teacher in Scotland.


I am a bit confused about the "native speaker" requirements for jobs in Korea: would having a British Passport be enough, even though I was not born in the UK and English is my second language?

I read somewhere that my degree would have to be from a UK university, is that true?

My future wife:

    - British born and bred.
    - Bachelor of Art in Learning Difficulties/Disabilities from a UK University.
    - Two years experience working with children with special needs.


How difficult do you think it would be for us to find work in Korea?

Thanks in advance for your answers/help.
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Jodami



Joined: 08 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:36 am    Post subject: Re: Will it be possible for both of us to work in South Kore Reply with quote

Your future wife is good to go.

You're ok on the passport side of things.

However, your degree needs to be from a university in one of the following seven English speaking countries - UK, Ireland, Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa.
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Allthechildrenareinsane



Joined: 23 Jun 2011
Location: Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: Will it be possible for both of us to work in South Kore Reply with quote

Duval wrote:
We are considering moving to South Korea in about a year.
And our situation then should be the following:

Myself:

    - Lived in Scotland for 5 years.
    - Born in Switzerland, British Passport Holder.
    - Bachelor of Science in Business Information System from a Swiss university.
    - Master of Science in Business Information System from a Swiss university.
    - Post Graduate Diploma in Education from the University of Glasgow, Scotland, UK.
    - Two years experience as a Computing Teacher in Scotland.


I am a bit confused about the "native speaker" requirements for jobs in Korea: would having a British Passport be enough, even though I was not born in the UK and English is my second language?

I read somewhere that my degree would have to be from a UK university, is that true?

My future wife:

    - British born and bred.
    - Bachelor of Art in Learning Difficulties/Disabilities from a UK University.

    - Two years experience working with children with special needs.


How difficult do you think it would be for us to find work in Korea?

Thanks in advance for your answers/help.


Your fiancee would have no problems getting an E2 visa. A couple of questions for you, though: are you a naturalized UK citizen, or a UK citizen who was born abroad?

If the former, b/c you didn't complete high school and college in one of the seven approved Anglophone countries (UK, Ireland, Canada, US, Australia, New Zealand South Africa), I don't believe you'd be eligible for an E2. In the latter case, I'm not sure -- was your schooling done in English or one of the languages of Switzerland?

Some more info on requirements here: http://www.goeastrecruiting.com/requirements
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Duval



Joined: 11 Feb 2013
Location: Glasgow, Scotland

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:16 am    Post subject: Re: Will it be possible for both of us to work in South Kore Reply with quote

Thank you for your answers.

Allthechildrenareinsane wrote:


A couple of questions for you, though: are you a naturalized UK citizen, or a UK citizen who was born abroad?

If the former, b/c you didn't complete high school and college in one of the seven approved Anglophone countries (UK, Ireland, Canada, US, Australia, New Zealand South Africa), I don't believe you'd be eligible for an E2. In the latter case, I'm not sure -- was your schooling done in English or one of the languages of Switzerland?

Some more info on requirements here: http://www.goeastrecruiting.com/requirements


I will soon be naturalised. :S
My education up to High School was in French...
Arg, not very good news... Sad
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Allthechildrenareinsane



Joined: 23 Jun 2011
Location: Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:28 am    Post subject: Re: Will it be possible for both of us to work in South Kore Reply with quote

Duval wrote:
Thank you for your answers.

Allthechildrenareinsane wrote:


A couple of questions for you, though: are you a naturalized UK citizen, or a UK citizen who was born abroad?

If the former, b/c you didn't complete high school and college in one of the seven approved Anglophone countries (UK, Ireland, Canada, US, Australia, New Zealand South Africa), I don't believe you'd be eligible for an E2. In the latter case, I'm not sure -- was your schooling done in English or one of the languages of Switzerland?

Some more info on requirements here: http://www.goeastrecruiting.com/requirements


I will soon be naturalised. :S
My education up to High School was in French...
Arg, not very good news... Sad


You can certainly still come to Korea w/ your fiancee, but you'll have to come over on an F3 visa instead of an E2, which means you won't legally be able to work for a Korean school or company while here. If you do come over on an F3, you could telecommute while working for a UK or other foreign company, but I don't know if this is a realistic possibility for you.
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YTMND



Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If the former, b/c you didn't complete high school and college


I have never seen them screen high school credentials. If you can get a college degree in anything, you can teach at some level. There was another thread recently where a NZ teacher only had a 3 year degree. Perhaps you can transfer some of your classes or take another major for 2 years since you probably already satisfied some general education requirements.

You really need this to advance further. So, I would do whatever I could. You could also take online classes probably.

Quote:
Post Graduate Diploma in Education from the University of Glasgow, Scotland, UK.


Maybe that's enough.
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sligo



Joined: 15 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The university where i used to work had Freench classes, so looking at your experience, you may get a job teaching French, but maybe not English.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

him:

passport from one of the approved 7 = check
Degree from one of the approved 7 = no.
graduate degree from one of the approved 7 = no.
10 years of study in English schools including 4 at the post secondary level = no.

requirements not met.

her:
passport from one of the 7 = check
degree from one of the 7 = check.

requirements met.

Can you get a job as a teacher in an international school = yes (E7).
Can you get a job as a teacher of English = no (E2).
Can G/F get a job as a teacher in an international school - no (E7).
Can she get a job as a teacher of English = yes (E2).

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Duval



Joined: 11 Feb 2013
Location: Glasgow, Scotland

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all for your answers, very informative.


ttompatz wrote:
him:
4 at the post secondary level
.

My fianc�e has a 3 years bachelor, does it mean she does not qualify?
ttompatz wrote:


Can you get a job as a teacher in an international school = yes (E7).


.

I did not think about teaching my main subject (Computing) in an international school. Thank you! Smile I guess it will be harder to find work as there is less potential employers, but I will give it a go.

sligo wrote:
The university where i used to work had French classes, so looking at your experience, you may get a job teaching French, but maybe not English.


What university was that?

I will bookmark all my potential employers and regularly check for job opportunities.




One more question: Is it better to go to Korea and look for jobs there, or find a job from the UK and then move to Korea?

Can you get a visa without having a contract beforehand?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duval wrote:
Thank you all for your answers, very informative.


ttompatz wrote:
him:
4 at the post secondary level
.

My fianc�e has a 3 years bachelor, does it mean she does not qualify?



Bachelor of ZZZZZZ = she is fine.
.
Duval wrote:

ttompatz wrote:


Can you get a job as a teacher in an international school = yes (E7).


.

I did not think about teaching my main subject (Computing) in an international school. Thank you! Smile I guess it will be harder to find work as there is less potential employers, but I will give it a go.

sligo wrote:
The university where i used to work had French classes, so looking at your experience, you may get a job teaching French, but maybe not English.


What university was that?

I will bookmark all my potential employers and regularly check for job opportunities.

One more question: Is it better to go to Korea and look for jobs there, or find a job from the UK and then move to Korea?

Can you get a visa without having a contract beforehand?


It is better to be looking from abroad. You will get your airfare paid and don't have the expense of living as a tourist (much more expense than living at home) during your job search.

You cannot get a work visa (E2/E7) without a contract and visa sponsorship (from an employer) beforehand.

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nero



Joined: 11 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YTMND wrote:
Quote:
If the former, b/c you didn't complete high school and college


I have never seen them screen high school credentials. If you can get a college degree in anything, you can teach at some level. There was another thread recently where a NZ teacher only had a 3 year degree. Perhaps you can transfer some of your classes or take another major for 2 years since you probably already satisfied some general education requirements.
You really need this to advance further. So, I would do whatever I could. You could also take online classes probably.

Quote:
Post Graduate Diploma in Education from the University of Glasgow, Scotland, UK.


Maybe that's enough.


All NZ bachelors degrees are 3 years.
I believe this is the same for most non-North American countries. I may be wrong...
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StuffYouShould



Joined: 18 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The post-grad from the University of Glasgow should give you an advantage.

In an ideal world, your education and experience should make you stand out compared with someone fresh out a three year BA.

Shame the rules are so "black and white"[/i]
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Duval



Joined: 11 Feb 2013
Location: Glasgow, Scotland

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:


It is better to be looking from abroad. You will get your airfare paid and don't have the expense of living as a tourist (much more expense than living at home) during your job search.

You cannot get a work visa (E2/E7) without a contract and visa sponsorship (from an employer) beforehand.

.


Thank you very much for all the info. You have been of great help.

StuffYouShould wrote:
The post-grad from the University of Glasgow should give you an advantage.

In an ideal world, your education and experience should make you stand out compared with someone fresh out a three year BA.

Shame the rules are so "black and white"[/i]


That's life... Sometimes it is frustrating, but rules are rules Very Happy
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silkhighway



Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered teaching at an international school in a different country? Even though your girlfriend might make less money teaching ESL, you'll make more money teaching at an international school and it might balance out.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She is good to go.

You are not, sorry.
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