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Jack_Sarang
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:20 pm Post subject: Korean Driving Rules: U-Turn |
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What are the rules/law for making a U-turn in a designated U-turn lane?
For example: I'm at an intersection in the left U-Turn lane. The intersection has a protected green (green arrow) available for left turns.
Under what conditions am I legally allowed to make my U-Turn?
I have a Korean driving test coming up that involves about 4 U-turns on the course so I need to follow the law exactly.
Thanks. |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Korean signs usually detail specifics about when you can make turns and U-turns since intersections vary so much here, but if you have a green arrow then you can make the turn. If there is no arrow on the signal then it's generally when the closest crosswalk is green. |
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Chaucer
Joined: 20 Oct 2009
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:59 pm Post subject: Sign |
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There is a sign. If it says "비보호" you can go when it's clear.
If it says "적신호시" you can go when the light is red (and the arrow will be green). |
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Jack_Sarang
Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Zyzyfer wrote: |
if you have a green arrow then you can make the turn. If there is no arrow on the signal then it's generally when the closest crosswalk is green. |
Chaucer wrote: |
If it says "적신호시" you can go when the light is red (and the arrow will be green). |
If the intersection has a green arrow, must I wait for it?
I'm getting conflicting answers from my Korean co-workers. Some are telling me that at a protected intersection I can only make the U-turn when I have the green left-turn arrow.
Others are saying you can make the turn with the arrow or when the light is red and the closest crosswalk is green. |
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andrewchon

Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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If your goal is to pass the test than be PEDANTIC. U-turn only when green arrow is ON (except for 비봉호). After you got the licence, knock your brains out. |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Jack_Sarang wrote: |
I'm getting conflicting answers from my Korean co-workers. Some are telling me that at a protected intersection I can only make the U-turn when I have the green left-turn arrow.
Others are saying you can make the turn with the arrow or when the light is red and the closest crosswalk is green. |
Like I said, every intersection has its own thing going on for U-turns due to various physical features and the order of traffic light traffic at the intersection - there are a few different orders that are used. The instructions for particular intersections are written on the signs and that's what you will need to follow.
If you want some kind of catch-all rule, I would say that, if the left-turn and U-turn take place in the same lane then you need to wait for the green arrow logically. If the U-turn is in a separate lane or there is no left turn, then the safest thing to do is wait for the closest crosswalk to turn green. The only time you deviate would be the 비보호 sign, which means you just do it whenever, but these generally only appear at small intersections. |
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nora
Joined: 14 Apr 2012
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: Korean Driving Rules: U-Turn |
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Jack_Sarang wrote: |
I have a Korean driving test coming up that involves about 4 U-turns on the course so I need to follow the law exactly.
Thanks. |
No, you dont need to follow the law exactly. I cut off a bus, ran a red light, fishtailed through the intersection, didn't wear my seatbelt for part of it - ALL at the insistence of the instructor - and he gave me 100%.
As far as I know, if there is NO light there, then you go when it's safe. If there is a light, then yeah, you have to wait for the green.
But seriously, relax on the test. I'm a very safe driver, and the testing guy had me do all sorts of dangerous stuff to hurry up and gave me a 100%. I wouldn't be too worried, if you know how to drive. |
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giraffe
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:14 am Post subject: |
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I dont know where and When the above poster did his/her test but I took my driving test in Daejeon in late Nov 2012 and you 100% have to follow the law and do things properly... ( at least here in daejeon)
The Test is now marked differently, ever since mid november 2012. The The examiner marks with the help of a galaxy tab. The examiner does not talk or tell you where to go. You have to listen to the Galaxy tab's instructions. Yes you can do it in English. I did it in english and its 100% clear and its very easy to do. Just follow the road rules and you'll be fine....
The Uturn can legally be done when the left turning green light is on OR on a red light When the pedestrians are crossing the street on the crosswalk directly in front of you.. You can also do it on a green light when theres a sign saying unprotected left turn ( in korean)... Do not Uturn on a green light even if its "clear" you're intructor will not let you go and will press on the brakes ( yes he has control on his side) to stop you if you ever try to go when you're not suppose to. You will not lose points if this happens.
Only Uturn on a green light or break any rules IF your examiner tells you its safe to do so...
3 tips for you.
- At every REd light or any place you stop for more than 5 seconds ( ie: waiting to do a uturn) Change gears into NEUTRAL. YES EVEN IF YOURE TAKING YOUR TEST IN AN AUTOMATIC CAR. This is NOW a requirement during the korean drivers test. Wether it makes sense or not ...just do it. If you dont you lose 3 points per times you dont do it... They teach this in driving hagwons here and they check if you do this or not. THey will remind you before in the classroom before doing the test. I didnt get the memo though. I though this was only for people taking a test with a Manual transmission...
- Wait for pedestrians to walk the WHOLE crosswalk before turning at an intersection even if the way is clear.
- Drive 5km slower than the speed limit... With the new Galaxy tab way of marking. The examiner can easily see how fast you're going...
Dont worry the Test is Easy But you will lose points... I lost 21 points for not shifting to neutral at red lights and a few other random things like didnt wait for the pedestrian to make it across the whole crosswalk.
I'm a very very good driver HOWEVER Officially the galaxy tab Failed me... BUT the Examiner gave me a PASS and brought my Grade up because the Only thing i was doing wrong was not shifting to neutral in an automatic car....
You dont have to believe me about the neutral shifting though. GO ahead and do the test. Maybe They wont care in your city... But its the reason I "failed". If a korean who went to a hagwon does the test before you ( they will make you ride in the car with him) you will notice he keeps changing to Neutral... Drive however you want after you pass the test but During the test you need to change to neutral at red lights....
Bought a Car and I'm now driving all the time... It's really not as bad as it looks to drive here... And I quite enjoy driving in korea..
good luck.. |
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Jack_Sarang
Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the help guys. I took the test last Friday and passed.
With regards to the U-Turns, as Zyzyfer stated it is dependent on the particular intersection and the sign should say what method is allowed. Some allow turns on the green arrow, some allow turns on the crosswalk signal and some allow both.
As for putting an auto-transmission car into neutral when stopped, giraffe is 100% correct. This detail isn't stated in any of the educational videos you are forced to watch and it's only mentioned after the videos by one of the examiners. When the guy said that I thought it only applied to manual cars.
The examiner I had was kind enough to tell me to put it into neutral after not doing it the first time we stopped.
The galaxy-tab passed me but I have no idea what my score was. I don't think I made many errors. The test is fairly easy. I had to ride along twice with two other test-takers. The first was some old ajusshi who almost forgot to put his seat-belt on and then drove erratically. Despite the the tab telling him exactly where to go, he tried making lefts when it told him to go right etc. Half-way through the test the examiner kindly told him he had failed and he needed to go to a hagwon and get some practice. The second was a young kid who drove incredibly slow and overly cautious, didn't change lanes properly and held up traffic. You're supposed to be deducted points for not moving with the flow. He also stopped the car with hard jerks each time, which you're also supposed to be deducted points for. I thought for sure he was going to fail, but he ended up passing. |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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That shifting to neutral may be on the test but it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. I'm really curious what the logic is behind it. I would do this sometimes back in the US at really long lights when traffic was not heavy but doing that in Seoul, you would get honked at 50 times by the time you got the car back into drive. |
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giraffe
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Jack_Sarang wrote: |
As for putting an auto-transmission car into neutral when stopped, giraffe is 100% correct. This detail isn't stated in any of the educational videos you are forced to watch and it's only mentioned after the videos by one of the examiners. When the guy said that I thought it only applied to manual cars. |
YOu should have listened to me =). YOu're lucky your examiner told you to switch to neutral. Mine didn't and Thus the galaxy tab failed me... At the end my examiner laughed at me at how many points i lost by not shifting to neutral. Since that doesnt really matter he said i was a great driver and passed me...
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The galaxy-tab passed me but I have no idea what my score was. I don't think I made many errors. The test is fairly easy. I had to ride along twice with two other test-takers. The first was some old ajusshi who almost forgot to put his seat-belt on and then drove erratically. Despite the the tab telling him exactly where to go, he tried making lefts when it told him to go right etc. Half-way through the test the examiner kindly told him he had failed and he needed to go to a hagwon and get some practice. The second was a young kid who drove incredibly slow and overly cautious, didn't change lanes properly and held up traffic. You're supposed to be deducted points for not moving with the flow. He also stopped the car with hard jerks each time, which you're also supposed to be deducted points for. I thought for sure he was going to fail, but he ended up passing. |
Glad that you passed the Test. Yeah, same here I didnt make many errors. Just the Not shifting to neutral x7 or 8 times hahaha.. I only had to ride once. The guy that went before me was maybe 10 years older than me. He scared the shit out of me and he went to a hagwon. HE Drove like 30-40km on a 70-80km zone. Almost hit a few cars while he was changing lanes , We almost got hit by a huge cement truck when he was turning right on a red light onto a busy street and then he also ALMOST hit a few pedestrians because he didnt stop and turned right on a green pedestrian light.... Im glad the examiner had a brake on her side because if not we would probably all be dead...
HOWEVER I'm glad That i wasn't the first guy to do the test because I got to see where I need to drive the car and what to watch out for. I saw the First guy kept switching the automatic car to neutral which i Thought was weird but I didnt think I NEEDED to do that... The guy before me knew all the technical things he had to do to pass the test ( like switching to neutral) But he absolutely did not know how to drive... Lack of practice I guess.. WHen i took the test I havent driven in maybe 2 + years but I had 10 years of driving experience...
Interesting Experience though. Be careful driving out there. Some of the most dangerous thing I find korean drivers do are when they turn RIght on a Red light they rarely Stop. So if you're going Straight on a Green light or turning left on a green arrow, best to be ready to put your foot on the brake because chances are someone will pop in and cut you off when they aren't suppose too.. Watch out for Taxi drivers, Bongo trucks, Black sedans, Anyone with a NEw driver sign and worst of all Permed Ajumma drivers ... Also never drive in peoples blind spots. They dont Check here and they will suddenly change lanes without flashing...
good luck =)...
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giraffe
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Zyzyfer wrote: |
That shifting to neutral may be on the test but it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. I'm really curious what the logic is behind it. I would do this sometimes back in the US at really long lights when traffic was not heavy but doing that in Seoul, you would get honked at 50 times by the time you got the car back into drive. |
Believe me or not ( I've mentioned this before) The korean Government is pushing this "green drive" agenda... They Totally think that shifting to neutral saves gas... In an other thread on here I posted some links ( in korean ) about why the korean gov wants you to do this. all has to do with "green Drive" good for environment or so they say =).
But like i Said, on the Test you need to switch to neutral.. BUt once you have your license Do as you wish... Its not like its a "law" .. its just a recommendation...
My wife ( korean) tells me i should do it because Her brother works for Kia as an engineer and he recommends doing it because its good for the car and gas millage. I think its total BS and my thinking is ..if this really saves gas and is good for the car then why the hell is this the first time i hear about it and why is this not practiced and taught to everyone in every country... I know someone mentioned they teach this in a Canadian Army But honestly I've been to a few driving schools in Canada and I've never seen this taugh to the general population ESPECIALLY ON AUTOMATIC CARS not to mention I've never seen ANYONE do this in an automatic car at every red light.
ANyways either way, Its not a big deal. You only takes a fraction of a second to mve the stick from neutral to drive.. you dont even have to press the button on the gear shift. Just put up/down pressure... IF I'm stuck in traffic or if i know its a REALLY REALLY long light I'll switch it to neutral. Otherwise I stay in drive. |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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It probably is good for the engine at really long lights (and Korea has what feels like some of the longest lights in the world) because you disengage the engine and it's not trying to push the car forward.
I wouldn't do it at shorter lights with an automatic because it seems like it would wear the transmission down on one. And I seriously doubt it saves any appreciable amount of gas, although I'm not about to run out and look for a study to back me up.
Anyway it's good for word to be out there for people who need to take the test but I wouldn't recommend idling in neutral regularly in typical Korean driving conditions. There's already enough going on. I actually have half a mind to think it's recommended so that people don't tear through an intersection when a light turns green and hit someone running a red...
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Also never drive in peoples blind spots. |
Really good advice. Also it's important to check your own when switching lanes because I don't think the concept of a "blind spot" for drivers exists here. |
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