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sundance89



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:00 am    Post subject: I feel like I have hit a wall with teaching. Reply with quote

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Times30



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What specifically do you not like about teaching? I think you need to know yourself first or be more specific as to what bothers you.

As an example, I used to hate an old fund accounting job I had. On paper it was great, good pay, prestigious, etc. But I would complain to my friends about how I hated the job. I didn't know for a while though exactly what irritated, so I just stayed. Until I realized it was daily deadlines that drove me up the wall. Hence, knowing what it was that I didn't like made it so I would prevent having a job with those characteristics.

What is it you don't like about teaching? Do you feel insecure because of being fired in the first two weeks? Is it the children? Is it the workload? Or is it because you aspire to fame or fortune?

Teaching is extremely niche because it appeals to people who want to change the world but take none of the credit. It can be an extremely thankless job, and deals with a lot of abuse from both management and children.

What is appealing about teaching is that you see progressive change in your students. And you can make a life changing impact on children. This is something that's invaluable and if it moves and motivates you, teaching can really make your life worthwhile to live.

It's not everyone's cup of tea. Ask yourself what you really want... what is the thing that you're willing to sacrifice all else for. If you love children, and would take a bullet for a child, then teaching is for you. If you're into it for money, then teaching will never give you satisfaction. You're merely putting a bandaid on a severed limb and it's really a short term fix.

It sounds like you're really here for financial problems, and if that is really the case, you need to find something that suits your passion.

The worst and most miserable people are those who live for others. I know people who still work 9-5 cubicle jobs they hate, merely for their manager titles and the fact that it's in the "finance" world. Your life is your own and you need to figure out what will make you happy. How many good years do you really have left? About 20. And years go by fast. Make sure you are doing something you like.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Times30 wrote:

The worst and most miserable people are those who live for others. I know people who still work 9-5 cubicle jobs they hate, merely for their manager titles and the fact that it's in the "finance" world. Your life is your own and you need to figure out what will make you happy. How many good years do you really have left? About 20. And years go by fast. Make sure you are doing something you like.


I know people that are miserable here, but stay to pay their debts, or because they have families. I kept staying here, because financially it is good, but I don't like it.

Your last two sentences are the key.

Another thing young people should consider is the marketability for their degree skills decrease while they are here. So although you're making more here than at home, when you do return, you'll probably make less than if you'd stayed there the whole time. So it is sort of like you're borrowing from your future.
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nimrand



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This isn't related directly to teaching, but what you wrote reminded me of a book that's been on my reading list for a while. I've read many books in game design and phychology that reference it. I do understand the basic theory, and it fits very well with my personal experience. I was very happy for many years doing software development because it allowed me to spend a lot of time on activities that kept me "in the zone," which the author calls flow, and which the author asserts is an important part of well being. The author talks about experiments you can do to figure out what sorts of things give you this optimum balance of challenge and concentration, as its different for everyone (for some it's washing dishes because it gives them time to think about other things). If you're interested, see the link below. There's tons already written about he book, so I won't go and try to reinvent it.

http://www.amazon.com/Flow-The-Psychology-Optimal-Experience/dp/0061339202/ref=sr_1_1_ha?ie=UTF8&qid=1369614264&sr=8-1&keywords=Flow
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augustine



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad post, but I think some of your back home blame needs to be redirected back at yourself for not asserting yourself more. Where are you from where the market is that bad and what is your degree in? Of course teaching at a hagwon sucks balls Idea, save up a little and go to China. Maintain a more positive attitude. You sound like a huge downer.
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP: my 20 won worth of free advice.

1) look at culture shock. You are about the right time to hit the wall.

2) look at finding some books (e-books) on the elements of good teaching and best practices. Discovering how to do a good job will often lead to getting past that wall too (even if teaching is not your gig).

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salutbonjour



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: I feel like I have hit a wall with teaching. Reply with quote

sundance89 wrote:
I'm trying to find my passion in life


Passion and life enjoyment are simply not found at work for everyone. Focus on getting into an employment that you can easily endure and find your peace at home.
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nicwr2002



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of mine who had been in Korea for 4 years told me the homesickness comes and goes in 3 month intervals. The first one is about 3 months in, then 6 and 9. After the 9th month you can see the end in sight. Don't worry it will get better. Like other posters said, read some books about teaching and find things on the web. Also, get involved with extra activities on the weekend to get your mind off of teaching.

On another note, in my experience, your like or dislike of teaching is greatly influenced on the type school you are at and the environment of that school. I used to teach in a kindergarten with a Hitler of a boss. After that contract I got a better job teaching elementary to middle school students with a relaxed atmosphere and more control of my classes. Now, I like teaching for the most part because I can communicate with my students and coworkers easily.
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sundance89



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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicwr2002 wrote:
A friend of mine who had been in Korea for 4 years told me the homesickness comes and goes in 3 month intervals. The first one is about 3 months in, then 6 and 9. After the 9th month you can see the end in sight. Don't worry it will get better. Like other posters said, read some books about teaching and find things on the web. Also, get involved with extra activities on the weekend to get your mind off of teaching.

On another note, in my experience, your like or dislike of teaching is greatly influenced on the type school you are at and the environment of that school. I used to teach in a kindergarten with a Hitler of a boss. After that contract I got a better job teaching elementary to middle school students with a relaxed atmosphere and more control of my classes. Now, I like teaching for the most part because I can communicate with my students and coworkers easily.


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caribmon



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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The key here is you said 'I have no skills'

You need skills.

When I was in Korea I had a little ghetto 2 bedroom place that my hagwon had rented (400 square feet for the whole house) and 1 bedroom I turned into a little workshop. I was building an electric bike and would conduct my research there and study new processes online.

If I was in Korea again I would move to a small town and find someone with a workshop and help them in exchange for me using some of their space for my projects. And I would study Korean more, like 2 hours per day so I could actually say more than 'I'm going to the mountain" "my father has a company" and "I like kimchi but I cannot eat it today because I'm not hungry"

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andrewchon



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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest watching some videos of Sir Ken Robinson talking about teaching creativity in education. When you work to give freedom to others you give freedom to yourself.
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randall020105



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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: bla bla bla... Reply with quote

You should also learn that this forum isn't exactly the best place to get advice from. find less than a handful of people close to you with sense and just listen to them and see how they conduct themselves... if they do something which is good for the long-term...clone their actions and see if that won't work out for you as well...

as for your skill set which may or may not depreciate with time spent in K-land... that's up to you and not true what some poster said earlier on... I honestly don't see how anyone could be bored here(or anywhere for that matter)... there's literally millions of things to do with your time...cook, read, exercise, make stuff, study....the list goes on and on.... I don't have enough time in the week for what I need to do... I ended up cleaning my apartment with the help of Youtube videos.

Use common sense, explore and extract the most out of what you encounter... listen to music and learn how to make music... reflect write and see how you can improve on your current state!
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TheFoodie



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:54 am    Post subject: Re: I feel like I have hit a wall with teaching. Reply with quote

sundance89 wrote:
Ok. My background. I have been in Korea for exactly six months now. I got fired from my first job after two weeks for not being perfect enough. Yes, that is what I was told. I could go into more detail, but it seems irrelevant. I'm sure most people are familiar with typical hagwon nonsense. I didn't fit whatever they think a teacher should be. I managed to get into another school which is 100% better. The only problem is I had to sign another one year contract over again. I'm going to be here longer than I originally planned. However, this is not my prelude into asking advice on how to do a runner. I need advice on how to enjoy my time here. Sometimes I get feeling really panicked and depressed because I'm so far from leaving.

The flip side of this is that I know that I am in the best possible position I could be in for the time being. Being in Korea with this job has solved so many problems. I'm finally earning a steady paycheck after getting laid off back home and bouncing around part time gigs. I had no money back home. I got kicked out of the house with no money. Living with a friend and his girlfriend made me realize that living overseas might not be so bad. And it isn't. But I feel like I am stuck between a rock and a hard place for sure. I feel like it would make more sense for me to stay in Korea even for another contract than go back home! My friend was telling me the job market has not gotten that much better. My degree makes more sense over seas, but I am having some serious doubts about what the heck I even envisioned when I pursued said degree. It has not helped me at all except for landing a nice gig back home (the one I got laid off from).

Back home I would have to be working way more hours for less money which blows my mind. I just don't have any skills. I'm trying to find my passion in life and I wonder who I ended up hear. Bad degree most likely. Again, I know the answers for the most part, I just don't know what to pursue. I will almost have enough money to pay off my debts in another month or so. So I am trying to save as much as possible. I'm very paranoid after getting fired from my first hagwon so I have been saving. I live every day like its my last day in Korea.

Overall, I am just frustrated with the teaching itself. I think I do not like it. It may just not be for me. Another coworker makes similar complaints, but he wants to continue teaching in a different country after his contract ends. I don't want to be the person who stays just for "free" housing even though its not a bad deal. I don't really know what I am asking. Hopefully, this post isn't too long. How did you guys get over these midway point ruts?


I hear you, dude. It's an improvement on your last job so ride it out.

Ttompatz gave some good advice and I agree: focus on the teaching. If you're interested in learning Korean, then incorporate that into your time.

Stay strong and persevere!
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: I feel like I have hit a wall with teaching. Reply with quote

sundance89 wrote:
Ok. My background. I have been in Korea for exactly six months now. I got fired from my first job after two weeks for not being perfect enough. Yes, that is what I was told. I could go into more detail, but it seems irrelevant. I'm sure most people are familiar with typical hagwon nonsense. I didn't fit whatever they think a teacher should be. I managed to get into another school which is 100% better. The only problem is I had to sign another one year contract over again. I'm going to be here longer than I originally planned. However, this is not my prelude into asking advice on how to do a runner. I need advice on how to enjoy my time here. Sometimes I get feeling really panicked and depressed because I'm so far from leaving.

The flip side of this is that I know that I am in the best possible position I could be in for the time being. Being in Korea with this job has solved so many problems. I'm finally earning a steady paycheck after getting laid off back home and bouncing around part time gigs. I had no money back home. I got kicked out of the house with no money. Living with a friend and his girlfriend made me realize that living overseas might not be so bad. And it isn't. But I feel like I am stuck between a rock and a hard place for sure. I feel like it would make more sense for me to stay in Korea even for another contract than go back home! My friend was telling me the job market has not gotten that much better. My degree makes more sense over seas, but I am having some serious doubts about what the heck I even envisioned when I pursued said degree. It has not helped me at all except for landing a nice gig back home (the one I got laid off from).

Back home I would have to be working way more hours for less money which blows my mind. I just don't have any skills. I'm trying to find my passion in life and I wonder who I ended up hear. Bad degree most likely. Again, I know the answers for the most part, I just don't know what to pursue. I will almost have enough money to pay off my debts in another month or so. So I am trying to save as much as possible. I'm very paranoid after getting fired from my first hagwon so I have been saving. I live every day like its my last day in Korea.

Overall, I am just frustrated with the teaching itself. I think I do not like it. It may just not be for me. Another coworker makes similar complaints, but he wants to continue teaching in a different country after his contract ends. I don't want to be the person who stays just for "free" housing even though its not a bad deal. I don't really know what I am asking. Hopefully, this post isn't too long. How did you guys get over these midway point ruts?


Don't worry son. It'll all work out. A recovered economy will let you work whereever. It's quite common for folks to end up working or being in a career not related to their original degree. Just got to get the economy booming again and everyone will get a job, even stupid people (not referring to you).
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: I feel like I have hit a wall with teaching. Reply with quote

sundance89 wrote:
How did you guys get over these midway point ruts?


I poured myself into my grad school application and portfolio and it really helped me pass the time. If you're not interested in pursuing higher education, find something else to devote your time into. Teaching shouldn't be your top priority. Once my application process was completed, I started re-learning French, like, really re-learning it and that has helped too. So maybe learning Korean, or something like that might help.

As far as issues with teaching, start looking into different schools for your next contract. Different in both location, and what is being taught as it can vary from school to school. Maybe you could pursue teaching in a new country once this contracts expires. Good luck!
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