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Earning a PhD in SOuth Korea
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seyz



Joined: 19 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject: Earning a PhD in SOuth Korea Reply with quote

Hey everyone.

I just had a quick question. I am currently applying to PhD programs in the US and Canada. As a backup plan I was hoping to go to South Korea, teach English, work on my language skills, and reapply next year (my area is Korean Studies). However, I was wondering if it�d be possible or worth it to do a PhD in Korea from say SNU or something like that? I have known some professors who have done PhDs in Hong Kong or Japan or something like that and was wondering if it�d be worth it to do such in South Korea? My overall goal is to end up in academia.

Thanks for the feedback!
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Hugo85



Joined: 27 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's definitely possible. Considering your field of study I'd say it's worth it considering Korean studies is about... well... Korea. Having a PhD in the culture of a country you've hardly been to doesn't seem that swell. That said, publications are the essence of the matter. A long list of international journal publications is a justification for everything.

That said, I would seriously consider how many openings are available for Korean Studies PhD back home and I'd look more into what kind of qualifications are required. I'd be most worried about getting a job at all.
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seyz



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input. Would it be advisable though? As far as where I would work/live I am relatively flexible, so long as I am doing something I like doing. My topic is more of an Anthropological Korean Studies type project so I definitely think it would be good to work on the project in Korea.

However, I have heard elsewhere that it is much better to get a PhD from any American or Western uni compared to a Korean one because of the overall education quality. Though as you said publications and building a strong resume would probably overcome all else.
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dongjak



Joined: 30 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am currently in a PhD program in a Korean university, I am not a Korean studies major but I am in the Graduate School for International Area Studies. If you have any questions, please feel free to pm me.
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an FYI... Our univ. trash-cans all Korean Ph.D resumes when hiring Korean teachers. Not sure if this would apply to foreigners.
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diver



Joined: 16 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
Just an FYI... Our univ. trash-cans all Korean Ph.D resumes when hiring Korean teachers. Not sure if this would apply to foreigners.


I had a discussion abut this with a Korean prof I know. Her take was that is better for Koreans to have foreign degrees because it shows they have the English language skills. She didn't seem to think it was as detrimental for a foreigner to have a Korean PhD because they are native speakers and have nothing to prove in that department (though a foreigner with western PhD would trump one with a Korean PhD).

That's just one Korean prof's opinion. Make of it what you will...
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Malislamusrex



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what university. I work at a university and my co-workers said. Don't bother getting a PhD from Korea unless you get one from one of these places.
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seyz



Joined: 19 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input. I was hoping to get a PhD from a top university (if I did). I know some professors have faired well in the job market from Japanese universities, but I haven't heard of any from Korean universities doing so. Does anyone know of any?

Also if anyone has any better advice please feel free to input.
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rainman3277



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are wanting a top uni. keep in mind, internationally no school in Korea cracks the top 50 in uni. rankings so outside of Korea the reputation of the school will have little significance. My friend did his M.A. at university of Hong Kong which is a top ten school and just a 2 hour flight to K-town
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rainman3277



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
Just an FYI... Our univ. trash-cans all Korean Ph.D resumes when hiring Korean teachers. Not sure if this would apply to foreigners.


Why? Do they not trust the validity, or the quality? Or does just everyone seem to have one?
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figshdg



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rainman3277 wrote:
If you are wanting a top uni. keep in mind, internationally no school in Korea cracks the top 50 in uni. rankings so outside of Korea the reputation of the school will have little significance. My friend did his M.A. at university of Hong Kong which is a top ten school and just a 2 hour flight to K-town


According to what rankings? The University of Hong Kong is undoubtedly a top university, but I've never seen any ranking system that places it within the top ten (QS, 23rd; Times, 35th; ARWU, 151st - 200th). The QS ranks SNU as being 37th and ARWU ranks it as being 100th - 151st.
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Swampfox10mm



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rainman3277 wrote:
Swampfox10mm wrote:
Just an FYI... Our univ. trash-cans all Korean Ph.D resumes when hiring Korean teachers. Not sure if this would apply to foreigners.


Why? Do they not trust the validity, or the quality? Or does just everyone seem to have one?


Mostly what diver said, I imagine. I would have to have a virtual promise from my school to hire me as a full Ph.D before I would do it with no qualms. Also, I would like it to cost less. haha.

I imagine it has a lot to do with the school hoping to eventually offer all classes in English. That is the trend.
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rainman3277



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

figshdg wrote:
rainman3277 wrote:
If you are wanting a top uni. keep in mind, internationally no school in Korea cracks the top 50 in uni. rankings so outside of Korea the reputation of the school will have little significance. My friend did his M.A. at university of Hong Kong which is a top ten school and just a 2 hour flight to K-town


According to what rankings? The University of Hong Kong is undoubtedly a top university, but I've never seen any ranking system that places it within the top ten (QS, 23rd; Times, 35th; ARWU, 151st - 200th). The QS ranks SNU as being 37th and ARWU ranks it as being 100th - 151st.


I was not trying to prove my googling prowess. Simply provide an alternative with a reputable reputation of a school employers in Western countries recognize. The ranking my friend showed me a few years ago was top ten.
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seyz



Joined: 19 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well where are PhD's likely to get jobs? In Korea at universities? In Korea doing other things? In other countries at universities? Can anyone provide any input on this?
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Hugo85



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rainman3277 wrote:
figshdg wrote:
rainman3277 wrote:
If you are wanting a top uni. keep in mind, internationally no school in Korea cracks the top 50 in uni. rankings so outside of Korea the reputation of the school will have little significance. My friend did his M.A. at university of Hong Kong which is a top ten school and just a 2 hour flight to K-town


According to what rankings? The University of Hong Kong is undoubtedly a top university, but I've never seen any ranking system that places it within the top ten (QS, 23rd; Times, 35th; ARWU, 151st - 200th). The QS ranks SNU as being 37th and ARWU ranks it as being 100th - 151st.


I was not trying to prove my googling prowess. Simply provide an alternative with a reputable reputation of a school employers in Western countries recognize. The ranking my friend showed me a few years ago was top ten.


I think your memory is either inaccurate or the ranking you've looked at is a superfluous one (not QS, THE or ARWU). Perhaps a ranking of Asian universities?

This said, according to the THE: POSTECH #50, SNU #59, KAIST #68, Yonsei #183
QS: SNU #37, KAIST #63, POSTECH #97, Yonsei #112

And it can be argued at ARWU is heavily biased towards universities that were the best before other countries became competitive.

It's also to be noted that Korean universities rankings are far from going down: they are on a steady rise. So are the universities from many other countries and it can be pretty much assumed that its 2nd tier 'muhrican universities that are going down.

seyz: Depends on too many things. Which university is a English PhD going to work to work in the USA? University of McDonalds most likely.
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