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Lucas
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 Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:31 pm Post subject: hikikomori |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23182523
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| A conservative estimate of the number of people now affected is 200,000, but a 2010 survey for the Japanese Cabinet Office came back with a much higher figure - 700,000. |
I bet this is quite common in Korea too.
Japan - Korea same same  |
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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre
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| Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| youd be surprised how common this is in england. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| unfathomable! Every day I can't wait to get out of my apartment. I've always been that way. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| It's somewhat common in Montreal. |
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Another step in the 'living in mom's basement' syndrome?
What's sad is the state of the apartment in the picture. The clutter should at least be tidied up once a day. And I'm pretty sure most Japanese (and Koreans?) are obsessed with cleanliness. How do these guys clean around the clutter?
For those of you who DO leave the apartment (congrats on your integration into society), take at least three minutes to pick up before you leave. So it's half-ways liveable for when you return.  |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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That article brought Adam Lanza and the other shut-in mass murderers to mind.
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| "Traditionally, Japanese psychology was thought to be group-oriented - Japanese people do not want to stand out in a group," says Yuriko Suzuki, a psychologist at the National Institute for Mental Health in Tokyo. "But I think especially for the younger generation, they want more individualised or personalised care and attention. I think we are in a mixed state." |
A consequence of growing narcissism? These young men are somebody in the video game or maybe while jerking it to 10's but in the real world they're just average or below average and they're answer is to withdraw? |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Titus wrote: |
That article brought Adam Lanza and the other shut-in mass murderers to mind.
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| "Traditionally, Japanese psychology was thought to be group-oriented - Japanese people do not want to stand out in a group," says Yuriko Suzuki, a psychologist at the National Institute for Mental Health in Tokyo. "But I think especially for the younger generation, they want more individualised or personalised care and attention. I think we are in a mixed state." |
A consequence of growing narcissism? These young men are somebody in the video game or maybe while jerking it to 10's but in the real world they're just average or below average and they're answer is to withdraw? |
I suspect the absence of clear, predefined paths to success is a factor. For most of human history, what you'd be doing as an adult was more or less decided during your early childhood, probably even at birth. Now all that's changed, with young people being expected to dive into a completely uncertain future and just work it out. Highly sensitive young men don't necessarily do well with that. Video games and masturbation are probably in many cases more pain killer than cause, lending structure (games) and distraction (both) to young men in need of them. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
I suspect the absence of clear, predefined paths to success is a factor. For most of human history, what you'd be doing as an adult was more or less decided during your early childhood, probably even at birth. Now all that's changed, with young people being expected to dive into a completely uncertain future and just work it out |
Certainly part of it.
And society has probably become less tolerant of those who fall behind.
Years ago people who struggled to cope were called "battlers". Now they're called "losers". These people suffer setbacks that they can't cope with...and shut themselves away.
Definitely the breakdown of the family unit results in a lack of support and nurturing for young people...leaving them unable to handle life properly when the time comes for them to make their own way. Boys don't have fathers around to teach them life skills. |
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joelove
Joined: 12 May 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:33 am Post subject: |
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And society has probably become less tolerant of those who fall behind.
Years ago people who struggled to cope were called "battlers". Now they're called "losers". |
I recall reading about this ten years ago. I don't remember people using the word "battler" though. Somehow "loser" has become common enough. I don't know why. Do the people who use it think of life as a game with winners and losers? |
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