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andrewcalo



Joined: 06 Mar 2013

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject: Where to teach? Please advise Reply with quote

Hello, i'm Drew, I'm new!

So please advise me...

I have spent the last two months getting my documents all ready, CRC, Degree certificate, sealed transcripts, etc etc...now all here, apostilled, etc...

But getting a job offer I'm happy with seems V. difficult...

IN MY FAVOUR:

Degree in English Literature.
Second Degree in MEdia Studies.
Some experience teaching in a school in South Africa.
All documents are ready.
From the UK, caucasian, etc.
Yoga teacher also.

AGAINST:

33.
Male.
Late in the day.
Turned down by EPIK.

What I'm finding is it's mostly recruitment companies for the whole out there, offering to try to get me jobs in the sticks and at public schools to stat April/May, where it seems that, researching a bit on the net and on this site, they are the dregs at the bottom of the barrel which other people weren't happy with.

They seem to be mostly rural areas, and though public schools, they don't come across on websites as particularly fun or appealing - whether because they're too small, or not a very big teaching community, or because they're quiet, or Westerner-unfriendly, or not particularly modern, or basically = no fun. I do like to socialise and go out.

So what do people suggest? Look for Hagwon jobs, just at REPUTABLE Hagwons? Is it possible to find a decent place in a public school before I jet off to Seoul beginning of May? I wanted to get a job in the next three weeks to sort my Visa out in Bangkok (I'm currently travelling through Thailand).

I kind of figured, doing research, that jobs in Seoul or Busan or Daegu or right next to these places were out of the question for a first-timer, but being able to commute to these places within one hour was somewhat likely..,

So what do you guys think? I'm looking for a more urban part of South Korea with creature comforts and lots of other Western teachers, but not so much noise or pollution.

I'd really appreciate ideas on places, and advice on how to find work...likeI I've said, trying to secure a job in the next three weeks...

Thanks Smile

Drew


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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want a public school job that starts in 1-2 months, which is mid-semester (thus far fewer openings), with a good location. Oh and you have 3 weeks to do it in.

Yet, you have no Korean experience and you are out of country, turned down by EPIK.

Guess what, something has got to give.

Option 1. Keep plugging away for public school jobs, you might get an opening, but pretty doubtful. Wait until the September hiring period, when more schools are available. You were turned down by EPIK, and unless something changes, I don't know why they'd change their mind.

Option 2. Take the rural job. The good positions are either taken, or more demanding of the applicant. You'll get a year of experience, it's a public school, and you'll have a better shot getting a better position next year. In most cases, they probably aren't as rural as you think.

Option 3. Take the Hagwon. Bring lube, you might need it. While there are good hagwons out there, the average one isn't great. You have a far greater chance of being screwed compared to a public school. Again, being out of country means that you won't be able to vet them as well, and as always, the better ones either prefer in-country applicants, or a higher quality of candidate.

I'd take option 2.
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Ranman



Joined: 18 Aug 2012

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in a rural position and it's not that bad. Daejeon and Seoul are quick bus rides away and I'm able to save money. If you're looking for Busan and Seoul, then you're going to be waiting quite a while, I'm afraid.
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Guajiro



Joined: 04 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ranman wrote:
I'm in a rural position and it's not that bad. Daejeon and Seoul are quick bus rides away and I'm able to save money. If you're looking for Busan and Seoul, then you're going to be waiting quite a while, I'm afraid.


I agree with the above. Do some research on each public school location and shoot for the ones that are less rural. A city in the hundreds of thousands, population wise, can be considered "rural" by Korean standards, but still have a decent-sized foreign teacher community. Also, most small cities aren't really very far from a major city. Korea is not a very big place, with public transit everywhere.
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andrewcalo



Joined: 06 Mar 2013

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what do people think about...

Iksan,
Incheon,
Budang
Gyeonggi,
Daegu,
Suwon Dongtan,
Hadan,
Gangnam.

with regards my specific needs?
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andrewcalo



Joined: 06 Mar 2013

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone? Advice appreciated Smile
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In your favor = qualify for an E2 and documents ready.

Against you:
Off season (EPIK recruits about 90-120 days ahead of the start of term).
-spring PS openings for major recruitment happens in Nov-Dec with NOAs issued in Jan and arrivals in Feb.
-fall PS openings for major recruitment happens in April-May with NOAs issued in June and arrivals in July.

No verifiable classroom experience as a real teacher.

Nothing to offer that any other E2 with a pulse doesn't have and you want to be in a competitive market (major city).

Your choices are really simple.

1) bite the bullet and take the best you can find (not likely to find a reputable hagwon from where you are so you're gonna have to live with crud for a year). ***BE AWARE THAT CHANGING JOB IS NEITHER EASY OR CHEAP and depending on circumstances may not be possible until your contract has expired even if your employment was terminated.

2) Go to China.

3) Wait for the next recruitment period for EPIK and, unless there was some reason other than being a late applicant that caused EPIK to decline your application, try again for EPIK.
(if they declined you for a reason other than being late then your chances are nearly "0" for any PS job with EPIK (ever). Try GEPIK or change countries.

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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewcalo wrote:
Anyone? Advice appreciated Smile


Well it is 3:33 AM on a Friday Night. Those that have a life are out having fun. Me, I have no life, butI have enough of a life to not do someone else's research of 9 locations.

Ok I will help on one location. Daegu is a nice moderate sized city that is comfortable for any newbie to Korea.

Please do you own work.

Here are some hints. Read the forum more. Really, please READ. The FAQs and stickies. You will get an education about working in Korea. Search the forum....

using google and the search string

site:forums.eslcafe.com/korea WORDS HERE

You will find lots of pages and info. It is up to you to to fiqure out things.


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Guajiro



Joined: 04 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewcalo wrote:
So what do people think about...

Iksan,
Incheon,
Budang
Gyeonggi,
Daegu,
Suwon Dongtan,
Hadan,
Gangnam.

with regards my specific needs?


All will meet your specific needs. Except for Gangnam, which is too rural. Or is that Gangwon? I can never remember. And maybe Hadan, which is in North Korea.
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lemak



Joined: 02 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

China!!
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andrewcalo



Joined: 06 Mar 2013

PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice peeps!

This is my first time teaching in South Korea and my first E2 visa - does anyone know if I have to go back to the UK (home country) for an interview, or is that old news?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewcalo wrote:
Thanks for the advice peeps!

This is my first time teaching in South Korea and my first E2 visa - does anyone know if I have to go back to the UK (home country) for an interview, or is that old news?


Mostly old news unless there is some reason immigration wants your visa application reviewed (usually not for 1st time applicants); something like immigration violations, overstay, removal order in your passport, etc.

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andrewcalo



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone got the skinny on Iksan City and Cheongju?

???

Smile Smile Smile
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andrewcalo



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone? Sad
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Guajiro



Joined: 04 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewcalo wrote:
Anyone got the skinny on Iksan City and Cheongju?

???

Smile Smile Smile


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iksan

Never been, but smallish city, by the looks of it. On the rail line with frequent service to Seoul, Daejeon, Gwangju, which is nice. It's a former Baekje Kingdom capital, which probably means temples, museums, etc. There are a few universities, which means there must be a night life. Having lived in a similar sized city (smaller actually), I imagine there is probably a good group of foreign English teachers to socialize/commiserate with. If you're open-minded, adaptable and willing to experience an authentic Korean city, it would probably be a fine place to live.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheongju

Probably a somewhat similar experience, but bigger, I'd guess more teachers, closer to Daejeon, closer to Seoul. I think the more important considerations are the schools you might be working at. Are both public school opportunities? I'd base my decision more on the reputation of the school than the city.
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