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1 in 10 U.S. Deaths Blamed on Salt

 
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:43 pm    Post subject: 1 in 10 U.S. Deaths Blamed on Salt Reply with quote

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On the heels of a study linking sugary drinks to 25,000 U.S. deaths a year, new research suggests salty food is even more dangerous.

The new study, by the same Harvard research team, linked excessive salt consumption to nearly 2.3 million cardiovascular deaths worldwide in 2010. One in 10 Americans dies from eating too much salt, the researchers found.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2013/03/21/1-in-10-u-s-deaths-blamed-on-salt/

Be careful not to eat salty food! (I had no idea it was so dangerous!@.@)
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Counterpoint.

Salt, we misjudged you
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Kepler



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like the study was done by the American Heart Association and was not peer reviewed. I'm skeptical. I don't agree with a lot of recommendations the AHA has made in the past like advising people to avoid saturated fat while promoting hydrogenated vegetable oils such as crisco and magarine as being "heart healthy."
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the reason you don't hear much about salt is it only responsible for raising blood pressure in a small percentage of individuals with blood pressure problems. The concensus was that most people don't have to worry about it.
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KimchiNinja



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kepler wrote:
It looks like the study was done by the American Heart Association and was not peer reviewed...


These people are morons, enough of the nonsense already.
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Zack, you are absolutely right. What would The American Heart Association know? And why trust researchers at Harvard University, the top ranked university in the entire world. Salt in large doses is actually good for you!

...NOT!

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Earlier this month the US Institute of Medicine recommended government intervention to reduce salt intake. However, the food industry is fighting a bitter rearguard action against any such move. The salt industry's annual turnover is several billion dollars and it has no plans to downsize. Thus, in advance of the new US guidelines, articles have appeared in The New York Times and elsewhere claiming that the evidence for reducing salt is not clear-cut.

This controversy is fake. The evidence for salt reduction is clear and consistent. Most of the "contradictory research" comes from a very small number of scientists, most of whom are linked to the salt industry. However, it takes skill to spot misinformation and subterfuge. And so the confusion is successfully promulgated.

It is a familiar story. The tobacco industry spent decades denying that smoking caused fatal diseases. Their very successful strategies included accusations of scientific conspiracies, selective use of scientific evidence, and paying scientists to produce evidence to contradict the public health experts and confuse the public.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18835-theres-no-doubt-about-the-health-dangers-of-salt.html
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kepler wrote:
I don't agree with a lot of recommendations the AHA has made in the past like advising people to avoid saturated fat while promoting hydrogenated vegetable oils such as crisco and magarine as being "heart healthy."

How far back in the past was that? Are you sure they were promoting trans fats, and are you sure it was the AHA?

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In June 2006, the American Heart Association (AHA) issued its "2006 Diet and Lifestyle Recommendations." The AHA recommends that your daily intake of trans fats be limited to 1 percent of total calories, which is equivalent to roughly 2 to 2.5 grams of trans fat per day. (The AHA also recommends that you limit saturated fat to about 15 to 19 grams per day.)

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Trans fat labeling becomes mandatory in the United States. The American Heart Association becomes the first major health organization to specify a daily limit: less than 1 percent of calories from trans fat. Later in the year, New York becomes the first U.S. city to pass a regulation limiting trans fat in restaurants. Multiple cities and states have since proposed similar regulations.
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They load foods with salt and sugar because they're addictive - and perhaps also to disguise the real flavours or lack thereof.
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Kepler



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
Kepler wrote:
I don't agree with a lot of recommendations the AHA has made in the past like advising people to avoid saturated fat while promoting hydrogenated vegetable oils such as crisco and magarine as being "heart healthy."

How far back in the past was that? Are you sure they were promoting trans fats, and are you sure it was the AHA?


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In 1956, an American Heart Association (AHA) fund-raiser aired on all three major networks. The MC interviewed, among others, Irving Page and Jeremiah Stamler of the AHA, and researcher Ancel Keys. Panelists presented the lipid hypothesis as the cause of the heart disease epidemic and launched the Prudent Diet, one in which corn oil, margarine, chicken and cold cereal replaced butter, lard, beef and eggs. But the television campaign was not an unqualified success because one of the panelists, Dr. Dudley White, disputed his colleagues at the AHA. Dr. White noted that heart disease in the form of myocardial infarction was nonexistent in 1900 when egg consumption was three times what it was in 1956 and when corn oil was unavailable. When pressed to support the Prudent Diet, Dr. White replied: "See here, I began my practice as a cardiologist in 1921 and I never saw an MI patent until 1928. Back in the MI free days before 1920, the fats were butter and lard and I think that we would all benefit from the kind of diet that we had at a time when no one had ever heard the word corn oil."

But the lipid hypothesis had already gained enough momentum to keep it rolling, in spite of Dr. White's nationally televised plea for common sense in matters of diet and in spite of the contradictory studies that were showing up in the scientific literature. In 1957, Dr. Norman Jolliffe, Director of the Nutrition Bureau of the New York Health Department initiated the Anti-Coronary Club, in which a group of businessmen, ranging in age from 40 to 59 years, were placed on the Prudent Diet. Club members used corn oil and margarine instead of butter, cold breakfast cereals instead of eggs and chicken and fish instead of beef. Anti-Coronary Club members were to be compared with a "matched" group of the same age who ate eggs for breakfast and had meat three times a day. Jolliffe, an overweight diabetic confined to a wheel chair, was confident that the Prudent Diet would save lives, including his own.

http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/the-oiling-of-america#aha
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KimchiNinja



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Americans just keep running in circles, I'm amazed people take anything they say seriously at this point.

The solution is to eliminate white flour, sugar, and processed foods...just as it has always been. But since "white man" were the originators of these industries they can't just say "oops we were wrong, let's turn them off".

And so the circus of pointless research continues, looking for a different answer, one that is more convenient.
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MoneyMike



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt

Salt isn't the enemy, and it never has been.

Pardon me for not following the prevailing wisdom of the fattest country on Earth.
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KimchiNinja



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ +1

I'm reading Gary Taubes book this morning; he also goes into depth on how all these wrong conclusions on salt got started.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And now for something completely different:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9_0gRpt_ok
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KimchiNinja



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ That guy was good, restricting salt can be deadly!
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