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gahrok
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 Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: How do you deal with disruptive kids? |
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Its as simple as that really, I'm wondering what your methods are.
Thanks in advance. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Its as simple as that really, I'm wondering what your methods are. |
Rock, scissors paper.
Make them stand in a triangle, put all three items in the middle.
Count down 3-2-1 |
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sluggo832004
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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I took a temp job last year. 3 weeks long. hands down the worst class ever!!
Sad part is they were kindy and 1st graders. lol. I never taught elementary before, but I thought it wouldnt be too bad because they have alot of energy and a passion for learning. WRONG!!!!
But I was stuck in a classroom by myself with a bunch of 7 and 8 year olds that literally tore up the classroom. hitting each other, throwing shoes, jumping off desk, starting mma matches with each other.
and my korean teachers were like "oh they are just nice kids" haha.
It was the worst. I just showed movies and gave up.  |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Stand at the front of the class in complete silence and stare at them.
Works a charm. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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it depends on what they've been taught before. If they've been allowed to
run around as they please, you'll have a tough time trying to change them.
If they are fresh students, you should have an easier time getting them to
follow your instructions.
With some groups like that sometimes all you can do is try to get them
copying stuff off the board into their books followed by a game.
If your books have songs in them, try singing a couple of songs with them
as a warm up each class. Try to get lots of goofy actions going and they
will see it as fun and join in. |
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Whistleblower
Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Beeyee wrote: |
Stand at the front of the class in complete silence and stare at them.
Works a charm. |
I second this. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Beeyee wrote: |
Stand at the front of the class in complete silence and stare at them.
Works a charm. |
I second this. |
I don't second this. I've done it before they don't even turn to look at you, they just keep talking. It works in the West though. These kids don't respect you. Period. It may just be an after-school thing, I don't know how they are at hogwans/public school classes.
I've tried being nice, mean, scary it all doesn't work. So now I just don't care and teach as if I am teaching to a wall I just throw it out there and if it sticks great, if not, oh well I still get paid. Maybe teach to the ones that want to learn. I simply don't get paid enough to exert as much energy necessary to maintain a quiet learning environment. I need about twice what I'm making to care.
And when mommy comes and wants to know why little min su isn't learning anything I show them my notes I keep on them with the dates. Keeps their mouths shut. |
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shamash
Joined: 02 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I often say "I'd really hate to have to tell your mother how you're behaving." and they get quiet quickly. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| shamash wrote: |
| I often say "I'd really hate to have to tell your mother how you're behaving." and they get quiet quickly. |
I'd be lucky if my little kids even understand what that meant. They can't understand the most simple English sentences. It's all just getting so tiresome these days. I'd love to just tutor one-on-one all day for my salary. No behavioral problems, a captive mind and more of a willingness to try to listen and understand. I would delight in making a difference then. These kids all thrown in the classroom with differences in English ability is getting us all nowhere. Nobody really learns all that much and we just end up wasting our breath.
You just can't teach kids (ESPECIALLY A FOREIGN LANGUAGE) with all of the temptations to talk and goof off in the classroom with 10 other kids. And corralling all of them is just an exercise in futility and one, frankly speaking, I am not committed to given the stress and effects on my health over time. Pay me more, and I may be more motivated to get them to focus. But even then the old adage remains true: "You can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink." |
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EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
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| The moms often take great offense if you single out their child who is the one being disruptive. The moms make excuses and spin it in such a way that the disruptive kid ends up being canonized as a saint and the teacher is a typical non-Korean lowlife. At hagwons, the bosses end up taking the "customer is always right" approach by defending the disruptive student. As a result, what I do is warn the entire class that the disruptive behavior is making the class fall behind, making us need to stay late to finish the lesson, and we do stay late if it continues. Then, the next time we have class, if there are disruptions, I remind them, "Let's settle down and do our lesson so we can leave on time today." That makes the good kids come down on the disruptive ones so I don't have to, which keeps the moms of the disruptive kids from getting offended. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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No behavioral problems, a captive mind and more of a willingness to try to listen and understand. I would delight in making a difference then. These kids all thrown in the classroom with differences in English ability is getting us all nowhere. Nobody really learns all that much and we just end up wasting our breath.
You just can't teach kids (ESPECIALLY A FOREIGN LANGUAGE) with all of the temptations to talk and goof off in the classroom with 10 other kids. |
95% of behavioral problems (with elem kids) can be solved by suitable activities/PLANNING/seating arrangement/rewards (not candy!) - Roughly in that order!
Man up! - You�ve got 10 kids in a class, not 100!
If you're just teaching from a book - well maybe it's time you stopped teaching from one!
I refuse to teach afterschool class from 'Let's go' or any other of those other crappy books!
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augustine
Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I either manually drag both their desk and chair (with them in it) to the back corner of the room or just make them stand in the hall. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Lucas wrote: |
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No behavioral problems, a captive mind and more of a willingness to try to listen and understand. I would delight in making a difference then. These kids all thrown in the classroom with differences in English ability is getting us all nowhere. Nobody really learns all that much and we just end up wasting our breath.
You just can't teach kids (ESPECIALLY A FOREIGN LANGUAGE) with all of the temptations to talk and goof off in the classroom with 10 other kids. |
95% of behavioral problems (with elem kids) can be solved by suitable activities/PLANNING/seating arrangement/rewards (not candy!) - Roughly in that order!
Man up! - You�ve got 10 kids in a class, not 100!
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If you're just teaching from a book - well maybe it's time you stopped teaching from one!
I refuse to teach afterschool class from 'Let's go' or any other of those other crappy books!
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your little theory may be true, but not in all circumstances. Many disruptive kids don't care what lesson you have planned and just like to talk and goof off and you can't come up with new and innovative lesson plans that are fun and engage each student every day. Besides many places want you to strictly teach the book which limits your own fun lessons you can do. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Many disruptive kids don't care what lesson you have planned and just like to talk and goof off |
- Sometimes, age is important in how you deal with this - BUT drawing a big line in the sand lesson 1 is vital.
It's much easier to start off being 'strict teacher' and then to 'chill' compared to chilled - 'strict'......
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| Besides many places want you to strictly teach the book which limits your own fun lessons you can do. |
That's why I'd never work for such a place!
The rationale behind this is the fact that the parents have bought the book, they want to see it completed. Completed = learnt right? - In too many Korean parents� minds it does! 
BUT when you point out that you can teach them much more AND they don't have to buy the book (saving money) they like that idea! 
Maybe your boss, who flogs the book and gets a % of the sales HATES THIS IDEA - these are the bosses you should never work for.
I would ask all of these questions before working for any after school 'gig'. |
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