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Ethan Allen Hawley

Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:40 pm Post subject: Help your school go fossil fuel/ nuclear free |
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It'd be really nice to see a lot of locations in Korea added to this map this year.
http://campaigns.gofossilfree.org
Have you talked with your Korean and expat coworkers about the idea of crowd-source funding solar panels for your hagwon, school, or college to get it free of the nuclear and oil dependency?
The sooner we take that first step towards the future, the sooner we start to lessen the ever-increasingly dramatic impact of our first world life-styles on the generations that will come after the students we teach these days.
How about starting with just a few conversations to see what you can achieve? If it's best left to another person, place, or time, then that's okay; but, "nothing ventured, nothing gained."
Finally, we, as expats from already developed countries, owe it to the more recently developed Korea, and also the still developing nations, to help Korea continue in its move towards use of sustainable, renewable power technology. As educated professional communicators, let's use that power of the personal we all possess to help our coworkers and then managers and then CEOs think through the exciting opportunity we all have of being on the leading edge of this important new technology! |
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le-paul

Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Location: dans la chambre
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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, Ill bring it up in the next teachers meeting |
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julian_w

Joined: 08 Sep 2003 Location: Somewhere beyond Middle Peak Hotel, north of Middle Earth, and well away from the Middle of the Road
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:09 am Post subject: Yes! |
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Hey, that's a great idea. That's that idea from 350.org, right? Their leader guy Bill McKibbon is a true modest hero. Here's a recent clip of him talking about all this; might be a bit intense for the average Korean coworker unless they have flawless English, but it's really worth a listen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOOjbTaqVC0
I love that he doesn't oversimplify, nor soften the challenge; this is not just about encouraging people to up their recycling efforts. He's an author and a university lecturer and he's not holding back:
"It makes no sense to 'green' the campus without also greening the portfolio."
I like the way he links the divestment plan with the effects on apartheid-era South Africa. I grew up in a NZ where my friends' big brothers were coming back from fighting on the streets over essentially "divesting" from the rugby-playing relationship with SA. A recent documentary strongly underlined the fairly immediate effectiveness of all those actions on those in SA. |
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julian_w

Joined: 08 Sep 2003 Location: Somewhere beyond Middle Peak Hotel, north of Middle Earth, and well away from the Middle of the Road
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:18 am Post subject: |
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This is probably a little more accessible for the Korean co-workers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96AKQhQkjMU
It also presents a great model, or example, for the kind of video clips teachers could make with students. Teachers could have students prepare brief statements - of three sentences? - about how they want their school to be powered by solar, or, at the least, how they feel about the impact of fossil fuel and nuclear on the environment. |
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julian_w

Joined: 08 Sep 2003 Location: Somewhere beyond Middle Peak Hotel, north of Middle Earth, and well away from the Middle of the Road
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:55 am Post subject: |
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If we wanted to support "sustainable, renewable power technology" we'd be encouraging them to build new nuclear reactors. |
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Squire

Joined: 26 Sep 2010 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Ethan Allen Hawley wrote: |
Finally, we, as expats from already developed countries, owe it to the more recently developed Korea, and also the still developing nations, to help Korea continue in its move towards use of sustainable, renewable power technology. As educated professional communicators, let's use that power of the personal we all possess to help our coworkers and then managers and then CEOs think through the exciting opportunity we all have of being on the leading edge of this important new technology! |
I'm not sure whether to take this seriously or not. Korea isn't a collection of tribes living in mud huts in Africa
comm wrote: |
If we wanted to support "sustainable, renewable power technology" we'd be encouraging them to build new nuclear reactors. |
Agreed.
I can't imagine my principle getting the green light from the education office to build a new nuclear reactor though |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006 Location: China
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Thank you mr. Hawley for so brllantly seeng the path so clearly. You are not here just to teach englsih but to bring enlghtenment.
so! Take up the whtemans burden.
I am sure that f you really smpilfy it the Koreans can understand this.
Oh! Korea was usng cannon on armored ships, printing books, while your ancestors were painting their butts blue and playing soccer with human skulls. |
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Ethan Allen Hawley

Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:24 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Squire"]
Squire wrote: |
I can't imagine my principle getting the green light from the education office to build a new nuclear reactor though |
LOL. Yes, very good. Carry on.
The original suggestion was to do with divestment. This is not about building anything, but rather about making sure any funds owned by the school are not invested in fossil fuels, but rather in more modern and responsible forms of power. This relates more to larger national universities which are more likely to have both the funds and the management structure responsive to students' views.
On the other hand, I like Julian's idea of smaller places such as hagwons looking at fundraising for the sake of their own installations.
Perhaps such smaller schools in particular are better for such community-based proactiveness, for they can arrange activities of appropriate size, such as very localized, small scale projects of raising funds for their very own set of solar panels.
It's also probably a lot less threatening to those overly attached to the status quo, and yet also a lot more effective at getting the whole community thinking about the idea and such positive possibilities.
This is probably the best - and most recent - example of what's possible within even just one classroom:
https://theenergycollective.com/josephromm/201871/kickstarter-fund-solar-energy
This is a great example of a positive news story for many reasons, including the not-so-small aspect of actually saving money:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/03/solar-power-mosaic-oakland-crowdsourcing
This piece is really interesting as it's littered with great factoids, like the point that there's enough roof-top exposure to sunlight in the US to meet a significant proportion of the entire nation's power demand right there:
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/blog/post/2013/02/crowdsourcing-and-scaling-rooftop-solar
Here's one example of a whole community getting going, from last year:
http://mdmorn.wordpress.com/2012/01/18/117122-being-social-with-solar-power/
CNN's carried a significant piece on the fast-developing new trend here:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/08/opinion/jones-share-economy
And finally, there's a fairly extensive definition of "solar crowdsourcing" here:
http://www.theresearchpedia.com/research-articles/what-is-solar-crowdsourcing |
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Ethan Allen Hawley

Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Rollo,
Woah; please relax with the rhetoric there.
My original point said nothing of cultural superiority. It is interesting to me if that is the way you read it, because that is not at all what I intended, and I cannot see how anyone could have read it that way, ie. you have no need to be offended. I am trying here to challenge white westerners, not to insult local Koreans.
My point was that western, and so-called "developed" countries (in terms of industry and economies) have afforded citizens the benefit of that technology, but at the expense of the rest of the world.
One way to pay some of that decades of benefit back is to help move the progress into the newest power technologies forward, and thereby in turn ultimately reduce the effects that climate change will bring. That will further help to both democratize power, and avoid any future dangers associated with centralized power sources. And besides, it's not like simply talking about the possibilities is a large challenge or a difficult feat for any of us anyway. |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006 Location: China
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:29 am Post subject: |
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Amazing!! You went to college? Well go for it. Much more important that you do that than that old teachng job they are paying you to do.
Forgive me please i snorted some milk through my nose when i read the response.
Good stuff though. the Democratize was awesome.
Please I missed the part where a nation of electrcal engineers does'nt already know about ths stuff.
Carry on , you are dong great work. |
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lithium

Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:54 am Post subject: Re: Help your school go fossil fuel/ nuclear free |
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Ethan Allen Hawley wrote: |
It'd be really nice to see a lot of locations in Korea added to this map this year.
http://campaigns.gofossilfree.org
Have you talked with your Korean and expat coworkers about the idea of crowd-source funding solar panels for your hagwon, school, or college to get it free of the nuclear and oil dependency?
The sooner we take that first step towards the future, the sooner we start to lessen the ever-increasingly dramatic impact of our first world life-styles on the generations that will come after the students we teach these days.
How about starting with just a few conversations to see what you can achieve? If it's best left to another person, place, or time, then that's okay; but, "nothing ventured, nothing gained."
Finally, we, as expats from already developed countries, owe it to the more recently developed Korea, and also the still developing nations, to help Korea continue in its move towards use of sustainable, renewable power technology. As educated professional communicators, let's use that power of the personal we all possess to help our coworkers and then managers and then CEOs think through the exciting opportunity we all have of being on the leading edge of this important new technology! |
Liberals.....(shaking my head) |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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rollo wrote: |
Thank you mr. Hawley for so brllantly seeng the path so clearly. You are not here just to teach englsih but to bring enlghtenment.
so! Take up the whtemans burden.
I am sure that f you really smpilfy it the Koreans can understand this.
Oh! Korea was usng cannon on armored ships, printing books, while your ancestors were painting their butts blue and playing soccer with human skulls. |
Amazing how quickly the tables turned on the Great Han Empire. I guess that means Koreans were first to pick up on the irony of post-modernism. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:49 am Post subject: |
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After a hearty school lunch, I'd say everyone in the school has enough natural gas to take care of most of our schools energy needs. I'll fart out a suggestion at the next teacher's meeting.... |
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lemak
Joined: 02 Jan 2011
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:18 am Post subject: Re: Help your school go fossil fuel/ nuclear free |
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Ethan Allen Hawley wrote: |
Have you talked with your Korean and expat coworkers about the idea of crowd-source funding solar panels for your hagwon, school, or college to get it free of the nuclear and oil dependency? |
Reducing their dependency on nuclear power? I'd be happy if I could just get them to stop picking their nose and wiping the proceeds under the computer desk. |
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