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thaitom
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ttompatz
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Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: Immigration doubts my apostille |
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My employer submitted my Docs. to immigration for the visa number, one week later they informed him that they don't believe the apostille attached to the copy of degree is real. They asked why I didn't apostille the original degree.
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I had to explain that it wasn't possible and that I used authxperts in the U.S. |
Therein lies your problem.
Korea isn't the LOS.
Expediters take short cuts to be fast since they have your money and there isn't much you can do about them from abroad when you have problems.
You will probably have to get another degree copy apostilled (do it the old fashioned way)...
1) send degree to solicitor/notary in the area where the uni is and have a certified true copy made.
2) when you get it back, send the certified true copy to the Sec of State where the notary is.
3) when you get that back, send it to Korea.
Not fast but works like a charm and no issues.
... or try China.
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| People usually don't have their original degrees apostilled because whatever you submit to immigration won't be returned. My guess is that the service you used messed things up. Maybe they got confused because you live in Thailand and the wrong from of authentication was attached to the copy of your degree. For countries such as Korea which signed the Apostille treaty you need an apostille. For countries such as Thailand which did not sign the Apostille treaty an authentication certificate is needed. |
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thaitom
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I just took another look at it , It definitely has Apostille written on it. It has a big gold seal and signed by the secretary of state. I used authxperts.com |
Hmm..not sure what the deal is. Yeah, you don't get the original degree apostilled, you get a copy of one apostilled.
Who apostilled yours? I don't mean the service used, I mean, who did the actual apostille? Which state? Some states apostilles look different from others.
It sounds more like they're giving you crap because you're coming in from a 3rd party country. Maybe emphasize to them which state you sent it to...?? |
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thaitom
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ghostrider
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| They may wonder how you managed to get your degree apostilled while living outside of the US and it certainly doesn't help that document forgery is rampant in Thailand. Perhaps it would help if your university sent an official copy of your transcripts directly to Korean immigration? |
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Skippy
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thaitom
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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| thaitom wrote: |
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| They may wonder how you managed to get your degree apostilled while living outside of the US and it certainly doesn't help that document forgery is rampant in Thailand. Perhaps it would help if your university sent an official copy of your transcripts directly to Korean immigration? |
Immigration already received sealed transcripts from me from my previous job, I might add here that I have complied with every request from Imm. over the years. I have worked at the same hakwon for 7 years, This is for a new job in a different city. |
Immigration does not care about sealed transcripts from a previous job. Korean consulates from countries that can not do a apostille only care about transcripts. Usually only Canadians, where they have to get their degree verified at the Korean consulate. So I am guessing American, immigration will not care.
Good you had the same job for 7 years. That must have been easy. Now that you are applying from out of country and a new school. The process is different. The thing is over 7 years the visa process has changed a few times. Actually it seems to change every year.
Stop expecting logic and hard work from immigration. They want what they want. |
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Weigookin74
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| Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| Tell Immigration you doubt them. |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea
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| I'm not saying you are OP, but immi is assuming you are a pedo from Thailand coming to Korea to prey on Koreans. |
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ghostrider
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| I'm not saying you are OP, but immi is assuming you are a pedo from Thailand coming to Korea to prey on Koreans. |
Maybe someone at immigration watched that recent MBC report "Unqualified Teachers Abound" which shows an English teacher who was arrested in Thailand for molesting children.
I wonder how immigration became aware of where the OP lives. Was it on your resume? |
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thaitom
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Is this really what people think of me when I say I'm from Thailand??
Wow! I wonder what they think when I tell them I'm originally from San Francisco?! |
You have to admit it is absurd to describe yourself as being "from Thailand".
You're not: its not your country of origin.
I've lived in Korea for ten years. I don't describe myself as "from korea".
Don't confuse immigration officers any more than you have to. If I was a busy stressed out immigration officer I'd probably bar someone from the country if they appear to be wasting time with silliness.
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| Well imm. does know where I live they do keep records, I have been working in Korea since 2002. |
Wrong.
Koreans traditionally do not keep records. In many cases. The idea of keeping records was introduced by the Japanese, during occupation. Before and after that (apart from family genealogies), Koreans basically forget what happened the day before.
They only started keeping weather records in 1998. The immigration database was only introduced in 2010. Before that they simply threw your documents in the bin. |
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