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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:46 pm    Post subject: Declaring war on my neighbors. Reply with quote

Honestly, why does everything have to be loud here. Why are neighbors so bloody inconsiderate of others. Last month I moved into a new apartment. Unfortunately the walls are paper thin. Noticing this my first instinct was to keep my own noise level down out of respect for my neighbors. Yet they obviously feel no need to reciprocate the favor. From the moment they get home from work its outrageously loud talking until about two in the morning. No consideration for their neighbors whatsoever. Just talk non-stop at yelling volume for hours on end. I put earplugs in to help reduce the noise, but it doesn't help much - nor does sleeping in a hoodie and pulling it over my head. I've yelled through the walls several times to alert them of my displeasure. The volume is then sometimes reduced for thirty seconds then its right back up there again.

I've decided to declare war on the jerks. Does anyone have any advice? How have others dealt with obnoxiously loud and inconsiderate Korean neighbors?

So tired of getting up each morning feeling underslept.Confused

Why do they feel the need to make as much noise as humanly possible on every occasion imaginable?
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optik404



Joined: 24 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried talking to them directly? I'd do that first. If it doesn't work, talk to the security guard if you have one. Then your landlord. Then the police.

Then if all else fails, I read about some guy who went on vacation and hooked up his subwoofer to the wall and played heavy bass music for four days straight. That should probably shut them up.
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithington wrote:
Honestly, why does everything have to be loud here.

There is a different standard of what quiet means here in general.

You could ask them to try to be quiet, but to them that may just mean turning the TV on 1 notch lower than full blast, and yelling every 5 minutes instead of every 2 minutes. "What? We ARE being quiet!"

You probably can't change their behavior much. If they never had to lower their voices before in life, why start now for a random foreigner who wants peace and quiet?

You could try to get the building ajosshi on your side and that may help a little, but only if he's really mean and they are softies.

Yelling through the wall is useless. If you confront them, make sure you go in strong but polite at first. If they are polite back, that's a good sign and you may have some luck. If they aren't, you could be in for a long battle.

The subwoofer thing seems like a last resort for extreme situations. My buddy did that once in college. Passive aggressive, but it kind of worked. If you do it, use it selectively. Turn it on for a while when they are loud, then turn it off. When they start again, turn it on again. If they are really bad, turn it on and leave. If they complain, then you can make an agreement that you'll be quiet IF they are. Continue as needed. Not a good way to live though...

Loud people + paper thin walls is a losing combination. The surest way is to just move to a better place if you can.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about this.

In addition to a good set of earplugs you can try:

1. Sleeping right next to your fan with it on high. One place was so noisy I would sleep practically hugging the fan (beware of fan death though!).
2. Since it is your own place and you can set it up pretty much the way you want perhaps try finding the quietest (least noisiest) room.
If it happened to be the kitchen then so be it. I would thoroughly clean it out and use that place to sleep.
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're stressing over nothing. Bang on the walls a few times. If that fails, call the security guard immediately. It's that simple. That's how noisy neighbors are handled here.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried talking to them face to face or talking to your landlord?

Other options- Disclaimer- These ideas are for entertainment purposes only. Always obey the law.

Blast hardcore adult movie noises. Loud cries of self-pleasure. Get a dog and have him do his business in front of their door. Set up a lounge patio in front of your door that blocks theirs and invite some friends over. Fuse box open to access from anyone? Deposit the local compost bin outside their door.

Know any Korean goons? Get them over for some beers and get them all loud and drunk and sic them on the neighbors.
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Have you tried talking to them face to face or talking to your landlord?

Other options- Disclaimer- These ideas are for entertainment purposes only. Always obey the law.

Blast hardcore adult movie noises. Loud cries of self-pleasure. Get a dog and have him do his business in front of their door. Set up a lounge patio in front of your door that blocks theirs and invite some friends over. Fuse box open to access from anyone? Deposit the local compost bin outside their door.

Know any Korean goons? Get them over for some beers and get them all loud and drunk and sic them on the neighbors.


dealing with neighbours is a little like dealing with koreans in general (and also similar to dealing with students).
really, we have no power here what-so-ever and any that we do have, comes down to the discretion of the people who would support us. A lot of k-people however, don't seem to realise this yet, fortunately.
My advice is therefore;
A/ what ever you do, do it either with a lot of chest beating but realise your limitations (is it will probably come back on you if you act out your threats).
B/ do it discreetly.
C/ walk away, its not worth getting lifted off the useless tools that dress in police uniforms here.
D/ keep reporting them until the person/persons you are reporting them too gets sick of you and does something about it.


good luck btw. the ctsnu in my building are the same. I had to almost kick their doors down to get them to shut up after midnight. most of them were probably too drunk (every fathering day to remember the most of it though).

edit, i just remembered something. have you ever seen the movie 'strangers on a train'? good movie


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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw, ive no idea why my ipad decided to quote steelrails before answering - two are unrelated
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IamBabo



Joined: 16 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 3:30 am    Post subject: Noise Reply with quote

I had some issues with this stuff too, this is what I did. If you have a smartphone, download Relax Melodies, you can mix up to 10 sounds to create white noise, it has a timer too, so you won't miss your alarm. Also, these are awesome, but dumb looking I know..

http://www.sleepphones.com/

They will plug right into an iPhone or any device with a headphone jack..

I used this when someone was drilling, and I didn't hear squat..

Good luck..
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These battles never seem to end well.

My bud had the same issue a few times here. After moving four times in one year, and paying out some blood money, he moved back to Can to live "where ppl have rules".

Any guess how much those rules helped him when an upstairs neighbor in Van decided to throw a party every weekend? lol
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I moved here I took care to select a building that has thick soundproofed walls. Never hear a peep out of anyone.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Write them a note and pin it to their door. thats what helped with me.
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wishfullthinkng



Joined: 05 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

living in nyc then seoul taught me to train myself to ignore noise while sleeping. now i can sleep through a hurricane pretty much.

the power of the mind is strong.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ear plugs help a bit, but they are uncomfortable after a while.

Try an MP3 player with some nice relaxing music, or something like that.

The fan idea is also good, but be waaarry ccawfuwl owv faann deeaff.

Very Happy
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said, stop stressing and call the security guard.

It's not a coincidence that most of these guys are in their '60s and '70s. Their age earns them a greater amount of authority, which is useful when it comes to mediating such conflicts.

So, get one of these non-threatening grandfatherly figures to handle those things for you. That's what they are there for.
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