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sirius black
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:45 am Post subject: Which answer is "incorrect"? |
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A teacher friend has a student that was given this question. They have to find the incorrect answer.
Can you tell me _______________________?
1. why you are so busy
2. where the post office is
3. what your favorite subject is
4. which is the largest city in Korea
5. how many girls there are in your class
I've ruled out #s 1 and 5 automatically. 2 and 3 end in is which may or may not be a slight grammatical matter. #4 could be 'what' instead of 'which'.
Any ideas? And yes, there are some very poorly written exam questions in this country.
Thanks in advance. |
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le-paul

Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Location: dans la chambre
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:16 am Post subject: |
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maybe its could you instead of can you?
mulah yeo... |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:41 am Post subject: |
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I'd go for 4. "Which" does sound awkward a little there, though it would depend on the context. For example, it could be correct in a situation like, "from this list of 5 cities, can you tell me which is the largest city in Korea?" But normally we're not choosing like that and what would sound better.
I'd still pick 4, though. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:42 am Post subject: |
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They're all correct. |
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Old fat expat

Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:48 am Post subject: |
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my guess;
two of the sentences are ending in to-be verbs. I don't think that's allowed generally.
but one sentence implies a past participle - located i.e. an ending. The other does not have an ending, implied or otherwise.
seems like I read something about grammar such as that is.
but I'm old and feeble minded.
just a guess.
nevermind
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Kiwigoddess
Joined: 07 Feb 2013
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:50 am Post subject: |
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Can you tell me _______________________?
1. why you are so busy
2. where the post office is
3. what your favorite subject is
4. which is the largest city in Korea
I would say #4 too. Although simply replacing "which" with "what" would still be incorrect. It should be "Can you tell me what the largest city in Korea is" OR "Can you tell me which city in Korea is the largest? |
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Waygeek
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:53 am Post subject: |
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schwa wrote: |
They're all correct. |
I would bloody hope so, or my grammar needs some serious brushing up.
I have a question? Why are some ESL teachers so anal about this stuff? I have some very gifted students, they are going straight to Yonsei, and they do not need to learn this stuff. This is never going to assist them. Better to spend the time on conversation skills IMO.
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:53 am Post subject: |
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I imagine it is 4, due to the fact it is not subject+verb order like the others. The complicating factor is the use of 'which'
Which city is the largest?
Could you tell me which city is the largest?
The indirect question here preserves the Wh+subject+verb order expected.
However, if we are already aware of the topic, the noun can be skipped.
I don't know which city to visit.
Well, which is the largest?
The indirect version of this: Could you tell me which is the largest?
The question inserts city in the wrong place, but it sounds right. And that's why it is confusing. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Not buying it.
You could word that question various ways, but there is nothing wrong with "Can you tell me which is the largest city in Korea?" |
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Dalton

Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Every choice can be answered 'yes I can' or 'no I can't' so I'd say they are all correct.
I'd reorder #4 to 'Can you tell me which city in Korea is the largest?' since no choice of cities to choose from has been offered but that doesn't mean the question isn't possible. It just annoys me. |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:48 am Post subject: |
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They're all incorrect. We don't speak that way. You have to be a dork. |
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edwardcatflap
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:56 am Post subject: |
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As people have said they're all correct. However from what I know of Korean tests, 4 is 'incorrect' as the word order is that of a question and not an indirect question. So strictly speaking it should be
'Can you tell me which the largest city in Korea is? ' |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:09 am Post subject: |
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edwardcatflap wrote: |
As people have said they're all correct. However from what I know of Korean tests, 4 is 'incorrect' as the word order is that of a question and not an indirect question. So strictly speaking it should be
'Can you tell me which the largest city in Korea is? ' |
Grammatically, that is incorrect.
It should be: "Could you tell me which city in Korea is the largest?" |
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edwardcatflap
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I must admit it sounds wrong to me but I still think it's the 'correct answer' (ie the wrong one in this case as far as the Koreans are concerned |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Waygeek wrote: |
schwa wrote: |
They're all correct. |
I would bloody hope so, or my grammar needs some serious brushing up.
I have a question? Why are some ESL teachers so anal about this stuff? I have some very gifted students, they are going straight to Yonsei, and they do not need to learn this stuff. This is never going to assist them. Better to spend the time on conversation skills IMO. |
It's not EFL teachers that worry about this stuff, it's the Koreans with all their
tests.
They make up all kinds of phoney rules and put them into their grammar books to control education. That way they can baffle the waygukins
and make themselves seem smart. |
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