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Hatcher
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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 Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 4:47 am Post subject: Daegu and the PT work scene? |
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Most in Seoul have private and PT jobs. I sure did.
I am thinking about Daegu and wanna know how easy it is to get extra work.
Anyone have any good or bad luck? |
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Waygeek
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:44 am Post subject: Re: Daegu and the PT work scene? |
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| Hatcher wrote: |
Most in Seoul have private and PT jobs. I sure did.
I am thinking about Daegu and wanna know how easy it is to get extra work.
Anyone have any good or bad luck? |
On an E2? Then privates outside of your workplace (or second registered workplace) are illegal.
| Hatcher wrote: |
| Most in Seoul have private and PT jobs. I sure did. |
I know probably around a hundred people here in Seoul... and none of us are breaking the law. So... |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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There is private work EVERYWHERE. Even the smallest of towns. The fact is that parents are competitive and desperate for additional English, Math and other subjects tutoring hence the market and why most are here in hogwons.
Everyone knows its technically illegal. Not advocating buat its stating the obvious. A question was asked and one has to assume that anyone who has been in korea longer than a month and even those prior to coming if they read threads knows its technically illegal but rarely enforced. The ajuma is certainly not going to immigration about it.
The only way it gets reported is if you have someone who specificially dislikes you to the point of going to immigration about it and one would assume they were a friend because even though its prevalent privates aren't discussed much outside your circle.
On a side note, I guarantee the ones that keep repeating its illegality have tons of privates and are trying to discourage competition. thats how prevalent it is. Everyone knows that. |
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big_fella1
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| sirius black wrote: |
| On a side note, I guarantee the ones that keep repeating its illegality have tons of privates and are trying to discourage competition. thats how prevalent it is. Everyone knows that. |
Is it really prevelent?
I have no personal problem if people do decide to work illegally, but I do wonder about the commonsense of someone who gets out of bed at 6am for 30k an hour not including travel time.
Add to this the Kyopos who have come back to Korea who aren't assumed to be pedophiles and aren't breaching immigration laws by teaching in apartments (but are breaching education laws unless they're students) I really don't see the sense of coming to Korea to make money.
The final straw is Korean households owe $1 trillion, do you really think they can afford hagwons let alone privates?
Go to China, if you teach business English you can pick up over USD$100 an hour as there aren't agencies and Chinese are less xenophobic about doing business with foreigners. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Go to China, if you teach business English you can pick up over USD$100 an hour as there aren't agencies and Chinese are less xenophobic about doing business with foreigners. |
$100 an hour? This is for real? How does one go about achieving this (setting up classes)? Tell me the info, and I'll be in China in a second. |
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hubbahubba
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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$100 an hour? This is for real? How does one go about achieving this (setting up classes)? Tell me the info, and I'll be in China in a second.[/quote]
please, go--quickly. You'll love it there---and then---you'll whine all over the China boards. You can hook up with Earthquake--it'll be awesome!! |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I definately won't be whining if I'm making $100 an hour. The polluted air or anything else wouldn't be able to bring me down. |
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big_fella1
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:06 am Post subject: |
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The $100 figure has been acheived by 2 friends I know who went there. They were socially adjusted and able to wear a suit and mingle at expat chamber of commerce functions. One had an MBA and the other an LLB.
Outsource recruiters here used to charge a similar amount until high vegetables started to K-Mart the product. |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| Pease explain "high vegetables". |
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Times30
Joined: 27 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:58 am Post subject: |
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When I lived in Daegu I remember there was quite a robust population demanding private lessons.
Of course, it's illegal, and I know of people caught and deported so I don't suggest it if you're on E2. But if you're on an F4, I know of some foreigners charging upwards of $80 an hour for lessons. They lived in Beomeo the Lotte area. It was a handsome Aussie married to a Korean woman.
I'm not going to lie, his prices were a reflection of looks and not qualifications. So if you're not in Daegu and unaware of this particular factor, be prepared to base your prices according to your looks. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| big_fella1 wrote: |
| sirius black wrote: |
| On a side note, I guarantee the ones that keep repeating its illegality have tons of privates and are trying to discourage competition. thats how prevalent it is. Everyone knows that. |
Is it really prevelent?
I have no personal problem if people do decide to work illegally, but I do wonder about the commonsense of someone who gets out of bed at 6am for 30k an hour not including travel time.
Add to this the Kyopos who have come back to Korea who aren't assumed to be pedophiles and aren't breaching immigration laws by teaching in apartments (but are breaching education laws unless they're students) I really don't see the sense of coming to Korea to make money.
The final straw is Korean households owe $1 trillion, do you really think they can afford hagwons let alone privates?
Go to China, if you teach business English you can pick up over USD$100 an hour as there aren't agencies and Chinese are less xenophobic about doing business with foreigners. |
You know nothing 'John Snow'..lol |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| Times30 wrote: |
When I lived in Daegu I remember there was quite a robust population demanding private lessons.
Of course, it's illegal, and I know of people caught and deported so I don't suggest it if you're on E2. But if you're on an F4, I know of some foreigners charging upwards of $80 an hour for lessons. They lived in Beomeo the Lotte area. It was a handsome Aussie married to a Korean woman.
I'm not going to lie, his prices were a reflection of looks and not qualifications. So if you're not in Daegu and unaware of this particular factor, be prepared to base your prices according to your looks. |
Intially for some its looks but quality ALWAYS wins over time. Privates can last a short time or long time and its almost ALWAYS over the quality of teaching (financial issues, moving, etc. are the other 1%).
A good teacher is gold. If you're just showing up and getting paid the ajumas will start looking for other teachers and cancel.
I take you at your word that you know some people who were deported. I've lived in a couple cities, have friends in pretty much every major city and I've NEVER heard of anyone being deported. I know of one guy who reported another guy to immigration and that was because the guy doing the reporting lost a gf to the guy.
I know of FB pages of various cities that openly and abashedly advertise privates. Its illegal but rarely known or enforced. Many schools are aware their teachers do but if the teacher is good and valuable and as long as it doesn't impact their work, schools have this head buried in the sand view oftentimes.
I agree with some of what you said though. |
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