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Weigookin74
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 Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 8:20 pm Post subject: How are mixed white and korean kids treated in schools? |
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Just curious. Mixed kids here can still get racist treatment and the teachers never seem to stop it. I remember last year a really smart kid with low social skills getting picked on and the KT's did nothing to protect him. Sometimes, I'd patrol the halls and look out for him. Anyways, I'm just curious how half white and half korean kids are treated in school.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2013/05/116_135770.html |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I work in the provinces and in some of the rural elementaries close to 25% have some foreigner mother. The mother is usually of some Asian nationality. Others know they aren't Korea, but often they look pretty much Korean, so I haven't really noticed any issues. However, I think if these kids decide to go to a school in a major city, they might feel the full-wrath of Korean style racism. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| That poor kid is going to learn the hard way that he is not and never will be 'Korean'. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Know one lady who had a mixed kid here. She pulled him out of regular school to put him in a school that was more "understanding" of mixed kids. She did complain once that at playgrounds, the other kids wouldn't play with her kid. The kid spoke Korean so who knows why. They finally left the country because she wanted a "normal" environment for her kid.
In the coming years though, there will be a LOT more mixed Korean kids going to schools here. They'll eventually have to face the fact that foreigners are not a separate species. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 1:27 am Post subject: |
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Korean perceived superiority and 100% clean, pure blood make me want to vomit. It's really nazi-esque. They are delusional and really the government needs to do something about it rather than put on the little snippet commercials you see from time to time about being accepting.
But I think they are learning this in their homes, so the mothers and fathers who are racist/xenophobic are to blame for instilling it in their kids.
I can already foresee problems with my mixed race daughter in these stupid schools, even though I guess the mixed white kids have it easier than the darker mixed kids and at times are really popular because they are mixed (with white). |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Well there was this story of one half russian kid trying to burn down his school last year because he was sick of being bullied.
I did see one little white girl once (not mixed) who spoke fluent Korean blend in well with little Korean girls her age. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
Korean perceived superiority and 100% clean, pure blood make me want to vomit. It's really nazi-esque. They are delusional and really the government needs to do something about it rather than put on the little snippet commercials you see from time to time about being accepting.
But I think they are learning this in their homes, so the mothers and fathers who are racist/xenophobic are to blame for instilling it in their kids.
I can already foresee problems with my mixed race daughter in these stupid schools, even though I guess the mixed white kids have it easier than the darker mixed kids and at times are really popular because they are mixed (with white). |
I'm confused. You state that Koreans are not pure but in the next breath call your child mixed race. What races are "mixed"? Asian? Korean? White? Are any of these a "race"?
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Adam Carolla
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| T-J wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
Korean perceived superiority and 100% clean, pure blood make me want to vomit. It's really nazi-esque. They are delusional and really the government needs to do something about it rather than put on the little snippet commercials you see from time to time about being accepting.
But I think they are learning this in their homes, so the mothers and fathers who are racist/xenophobic are to blame for instilling it in their kids.
I can already foresee problems with my mixed race daughter in these stupid schools, even though I guess the mixed white kids have it easier than the darker mixed kids and at times are really popular because they are mixed (with white). |
I'm confused. You state that Koreans are not pure but in the next breath call your child mixed race. What races are "mixed"? Asian? Korean? White? Are any of these a "race"?
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/yawn
This tactic of trying to bog down the discussion with the minutiae of what is and isn't race is tired and old.
Do you disagree with the notion that Koreans consider themselves one race? A simple yes or no will suffice. A non-answer or a deflection will let me know what your agenda is. (Either you are genuinely interested in discussing this issue, or you are genuinely interested in quashing the issue.) |
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toby99
Joined: 28 Aug 2009
Location: Dong-Incheon-by-the-sea, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| I actually had a Pakistani boy at my elementary school- 100% Pakistani. The Koreans called him "Ooo-soo-maah". He was athletic, a prankster, and one of the more popular kids in his grade. I think it was the teachers that singled him out and gave him a hard time for being 'different'. Of course his popularity might wane as he gets older, but he was treated fine by the other students. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:58 am Post subject: |
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I believe Koreans think of themselves as 한민족.
Does that translate to race, people, culture? You tell me. I've only been here for 22 years, what do I know?
My son isn't "mixed".
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Adam Carolla
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| T-J wrote: |
I believe Koreans think of themselves as 한민족.
Does that translate to race, people, culture? You tell me. I've only been here for 22 years, what do I know?
My son isn't "mixed".
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Thank you for proving my point. You just want to stifle discussion. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| Adam Carolla wrote: |
| T-J wrote: |
I believe Koreans think of themselves as 한민족.
Does that translate to race, people, culture? You tell me. I've only been here for 22 years, what do I know?
My son isn't "mixed".
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Thank you for proving my point. You just want to stifle discussion. |
If you want to walk away from the discussion that's your prerogative. I'm not stifling anything.
How can you claim Koreans are wrong for perpetuating a false view of race and also claim that a child is mixed? It's illogical.
Do some Koreans hold these views? I know that some do. I also know that if you use the term mixed, then you are just as wrong. That's my point.
Do you disagree with it?
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Adam Carolla
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| T-J wrote: |
| Adam Carolla wrote: |
| T-J wrote: |
I believe Koreans think of themselves as 한민족.
Does that translate to race, people, culture? You tell me. I've only been here for 22 years, what do I know?
My son isn't "mixed".
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Thank you for proving my point. You just want to stifle discussion. |
If you want to walk away from the discussion that's your prerogative. I'm not stifling anything.
How can you claim Koreans are wrong for perpetuating a false view of race and also claim that a child is mixed? It's illogical.
Do some Koreans hold these views? I know that some do. I also know that if you use the term mixed, then you are just as wrong. That's my point.
Do you disagree with it?
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Koreans know pretty clearly who and what they consider to be "Korean."
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| Korean ethnic nationalism, or racial nationalism,[1] is a political ideology and a form of ethnic identity that is prevalent in modern Korea. It is based on the belief that Koreans form a nation, a race, or an ethnic group that shares a unified bloodline and a distinct culture. |
Therefore getting bogged down over what constitutes "race" is stifling discussion. Why? Because it doesn't matter how we define race. What matters is how they define race. And it's got a pretty explicit definition. And guess what? The child of a non-Korean and a Korean does not fit that definition.
And congratulations for side-tracking the thread with your agenda. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Korean ethnic nationalism, or racial nationalism,[1] is a political ideology and a form of ethnic identity that is prevalent in modern Korea. It is based on the belief that Koreans form a nation, a race, or an ethnic group that shares a unified bloodline and a distinct culture
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This bolding cherry picking is fun.
Quoting Wikipedia without a link or citation is just lazy by the way.
Again you're not addressing my actual point.
The point was not to deny that some in Korea hold incorrect views. I freely admit that some do.
My point was that by calling kids "mixed" enforces those views and are just as wrong.
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Adam Carolla
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Korean ethnic nationalism, or racial nationalism,[1] is a political ideology and a form of ethnic identity that is prevalent in modern Korea. It is based on the belief that Koreans form a nation, a race, or an ethnic group that shares a unified bloodline and a distinct culture
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This bolding cherry picking is fun.
Quoting Wikipedia without a link or citation is just lazy by the way.
Again you're not addressing my actual point.
The point was not to deny that some in Korea hold incorrect views. I freely admit that some do.
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Your choice of language just points out what I accurately spotted in my first post. "Some in Korea hold incorrect views"? Really? From wikipedia, this view is "prevalent."
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Prevalent
Adjective
Widespread in a particular area at a particular time.
Predominant; powerful. |
Yet you claim that "some" hold this view. This is a tactic used, once again, to stifle discussion, and I'm successfully calling you out on it. This is not a view held by "some" Koreans. It is a view held by a majority of Koreans.
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| My point was that by calling kids "mixed" enforces those views and are just as wrong. |
No, that wasn't your point. Your original post in this thread was to bog down and stifle the discussion over what is and isn't race, despite the fact that the only thing that pertains to this discussion is what Koreans consider to be a race. Or did you forget?
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| I'm confused. You state that Koreans are not pure but in the next breath call your child mixed race. What races are "mixed"? Asian? Korean? White? Are any of these a "race"? |
Now, if we are somehow expected to extract from the preceding that calling kids mixed is wrong, then I think you're expecting a bit much from your audience, because that is clearly not the sentiment of what you wrote. Oh, wait, I forgot, you're backpedaling. |
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