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Murakano
Joined: 10 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 5:48 pm Post subject: HiEnglish - corporate jobs |
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anyone work or worked with them? opinions?
I did a search but there are no specific threads related other than some short mentions. |
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PEIGUY

Joined: 28 Mar 2004 Location: Omokgyo
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Did a 3 month contract with them back in the fall. They're no different than any other business recruiter. They pay low compared to others but it's payed on time. I don't like having to sign a sheet saying you'll wait 2 weeks when you apply for a job. |
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PEIGUY

Joined: 28 Mar 2004 Location: Omokgyo
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Did a 3 month contract with them back in the fall. They're no different than any other business recruiter. They pay low compared to others but it's payed on time. I don't like having to sign a sheet saying you'll wait 2 weeks when you apply for a job. |
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Murakano
Joined: 10 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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PEIGUY wrote: |
Did a 3 month contract with them back in the fall. They're no different than any other business recruiter. They pay low compared to others but it's payed on time. I don't like having to sign a sheet saying you'll wait 2 weeks when you apply for a job. |
How much was the hourly rate the time you worked there? Don't want to get low balled too much! |
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War Eagle
Joined: 15 Feb 2009
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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PEIGUY wrote: |
Did a 3 month contract with them back in the fall. They're no different than any other business recruiter. They pay low compared to others but it's payed on time. I don't like having to sign a sheet saying you'll wait 2 weeks when you apply for a job. |
Hahahahaha. You can probably blame me personally (at least partially) for this one. I applied for a job with them a couple of years ago. I went in for an interview, did the mock teaching, and was told they would send my resume to the company. The position started about a week and a half later.
About a week had passed with no word from HiEnglish, so I accepted another part-time position in that same time slot. A day or two later they call me up and tell me that I have gotten the position and that I need to start the next day. I told them, very politely, sorry, but I already accepted another position.
A complete SH!T storm ensues! The recruited starts completely going off on me via email about how I have no work ethic and calls me various names Dave's won't allow me to post. I fire back and we exchange about 4-5 heated emails. Long story short, I forwarded the emails to his manager, which I am sure nothing ever came of, and refused to ever work for them again. And I haven't. |
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big_fella1
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be curious how much they were offering. They approached me about a job once but when they told me the pay rate, I thought it was one of those candid camera type shows.
Lets look at the economics of doing a one hour class. Get in the car and drive 10km 30 minutes plus 7,500 won for car expenses (petrol, oil, insurance, road tax, wear and tear, depreciation, etc) by 2 you have spent 1 hour and 15,000 won. You are now at 35,000 won for 2 hours (1 hour travel plus 1 hour teaching). Tax on that will depend on how much you earn, 3.3% won't cover it, say 18.8% (the flat rate) 6,580 won, pension 9% (particularly if you are from a non-refund country, although this stops around 3million won) say 3,150 won. National Health Insurance at 11.78% 4,123 won (actually this may be to high) means you earn a grand total of 21,147 won for 2 hours work not including paperwork, reports, prep time, cellphone calls, and printouts if necessary. Plus decent suits and clothes, say 1million every couple of months. More if you like Armani.
I try to avoid 1 hour classes all together, but if I were to do one, you'd better be offering more than 50k and they were offering significantly less.
I realise other employees aren't paid for travel to and from work, but they don't go to work 3-4 times or more times a day either.
As for their pay bumps every 3 months, I think it's best to think of each contract as your last. If you're any good, you can negotiate to get the contract without the agency and if you're not any good, it probably will be your last anyway. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, pay really hasn't gone anywhere. I did a couple of corporate teaching gigs when I was in grad school in the mid-late 90s and I never made less than 50K an hour, usually in 2 hour blocks (with a break). For larger 'boardroom' type classes, I billed 80-100 an hour. |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:23 am Post subject: |
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I did a stint with HiEnglish several years ago and the pay was tolerable back then. To put it in perspective, I was not wearing suits to the classes, and made it clear that I would only take jobs that worked with my existing work commute. Since I was working 9-6 it was not that bad. Factor in that the lessons were "prepared" and it wasn't all that bad to me.
But as my last three-month deal was concluding, they started talking about teachers needing to provide their own supplements and things. I know the agencies pocket the majority of the money that the companies pay for these English classes so I quit since the payment was no longer all that viable. I was already working full-time at a fairly full-on job, so I could not come home after that and do up worksheets and crap.
I got the impression after revisiting them a few months later that they have improved their materials and things, but the pay is still the same and student demand is higher than before.
They also take the three-month contracts very seriously, they are not fond at all of changing teachers in the middle of one. Which means no jaunting off to another country for a week in the middle of one of these contracted periods. |
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