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PolishKorean
Joined: 17 Jan 2013
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 Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:53 am Post subject: Jeremy Lee Intra Education & Chungdahm |
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I'm planning on going to S. Korea April/May.
I'm already aware of the work expectation and am going for a cultural experience in a work environment, and not so much for tourism. That being said I am perfectly fine with working 45-60 hours a week.
Other than hearing about long hours does anyone have any pro/cons or feedback on these two institutes/recruiters?
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tanklor1
Joined: 13 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Chungdahm is a mistake. Take it from someone who works there; it ain't worth the time or effort. But it sounds like you're the young fresh-out-of-college type that they prefer to hire so you may look past all the complaints and end up having a work-filled, draining, exploitative year. Sorry, for sounding so jaded but if you work with them they will exploit every hour out of you that they can. |
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jjajangmyun
Joined: 31 Aug 2011
Location: way down south!
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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"that being said I am perfectly fine with working 45-60 hours a week"
ha. ha ha. ha ha ha ha. lord have pity on the fools.
"going for a cultural experience in a work environment"
maybe this is possible. but then you mentioned chungdahm. where the only "culture" you're likely to "experience" is going to involve a korean boss withholding/changing your pay because your contract means jack $hit to chungdahm.
find me a single chungdahm that didn't violate their contracts, and i'll *beep* kim jong eun bareback while my mother watches. |
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faeriehazel
Joined: 04 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I used to work at the main branch. It wasn't the perfect job but they always paid me on time, and I think it's an okay place for a newbie to get a good start. I have a few friends who still work there. If you want a regular paycheck and you don't mind having to teach to a strictly set curriculum then Chungdahm might not be a bad choice. The management is full of shit but if you keep your head down and just teach your hours, you should be all right. |
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Times30
Joined: 27 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:55 am Post subject: |
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i'm not stranger to hard work and long hours.
Be careful because when I worked, and this is the same for all CDI's there are a LOT of unpaid hours. I'm not talking a few, I'm talking about 2-3 hours a day are unpaid. If you do the math, you actually aren't paid more than other hagwons. Saturdays are taken from you and the schedules are RIDICULOUS. You probably will get a 10 to 10 schedule at some point, and you will be sleep deprived and extremely cheesed off at everything.
I had no time to do anything... I worked hard, I was voted best teachers by the kids, I did my job very well. But the particular branch I worked had absolutely no respect the amount of hard work you put in, and only demanded you worked more.
Just be careful about deciding to work at CDI. You can check my post history. I'm pretty defensive about CDI when I first started but now I see how much I regret my decision. |
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face32
Joined: 06 Oct 2010
Location: USA
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| Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| Does Jeremy only work with Chungdahm? Or does he work with many schools? |
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face32
Joined: 06 Oct 2010
Location: USA
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| Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:11 am Post subject: |
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I haven't figured out if Intra Edu only works for a specific school or not. I don't think so. The first thing he offered was a Poly school.
Does every recruiter work for Poly schools or what. Every recruiter I have applied with (8+) has tried to get me to interview with Poly. Every. Single. One. |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| jjajangmyun wrote: |
find me a single chungdahm that didn't violate their contracts, and i'll *beep* kim jong eun bareback while my mother watches. |
My branch.
Sweet, where can I see the show? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| Beeyee wrote: |
| jjajangmyun wrote: |
find me a single chungdahm that didn't violate their contracts, and i'll *beep* kim jong eun bareback while my mother watches. |
My branch.
Sweet, where can I see the show? |
The issue with CDI has never been that it doesn't honor it's contracts, it's that the contract is kind of shitty. It can work for some folks, but it ain't gonna be too cushy. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Yet another newb getting dazzled by CDI's promises--and its apologists fronting for them. What's not to like? Oh, wait! Here you go:
- Falsely listed as Independent Contractor
- No pension
- No insurance
- No protection when you get shafted on contract violations
You know what? Go for it! If you're fool enough to go with CDI, you deserve whatever happens to you. And that's why outfits like that continue to operate the way they do: people are fool enough to let their employer walk all over them. |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
Yet another newb getting dazzled by CDI's promises--and its apologists fronting for them. What's not to like? Oh, wait! Here you go:
- Falsely listed as Independent Contractor
- No pension
- No insurance
- No protection when you get shafted on contract violations
You know what? Go for it! If you're fool enough to go with CDI, you deserve whatever happens to you. And that's why outfits like that continue to operate the way they do: people are fool enough to let their employer walk all over them. |
Your only legitimate complaint is number one, but guess what, almost every academy in Korea lists it's employees as independent contractors. Besides, my branch doesn't.
I'm not an apologist for Chungdahm at all, but I also can't sit by and watch so much uninformed BS being spouted on this site about the company.
I work at one of the largest branches in the country and we:
Are correctly taxed
Receive healthcare
Receive pension
Don't get screwed over by any sense of the word
Get paid highly (by hagwon standards)
The vast majority of our teachers re-sign year on year. What a truly terrible place it must be! |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:49 am Post subject: |
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| Beeyee wrote: |
| Your only legitimate complaint is number one, but guess what, almost every academy in Korea lists it's employees as independent contractors. Besides, my branch doesn't. |
Bull. I have a few friends still working at hagweons in Korea and their hagweons are listing them as employees and even paying the national health and pension payments as required by law. Many of the hagweons they--and I--checked out did manage to not pretend we're all ICs.
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| I'm not an apologist for Chungdahm at all, but I also can't sit by and watch so much uninformed BS being spouted on this site about the company. |
If you're not an apologist, don't make noises like one. I'm not uninformed. And you're posting bull.
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I work at one of the largest branches in the country and we:
Are correctly taxed
Receive healthcare
Receive pension
Don't get screwed over by any sense of the word
Get paid highly (by hagwon standards)
The vast majority of our teachers re-sign year on year. What a truly terrible place it must be! |
Well, some people gladly let themselves get cheated out of their legal due. Others simply don't know any better. Your posting leads me to think that you just might be listed as an IC and thus you're not being taxed correctly and you're not getting what's legally due.
And whoopdeedoo about "your branch" not shafting you. There's a reason that CDI has a reputation down in the cellar along with Wonderland and is facing a class action lawsuit. That reason isn't because they're friendly employers. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:29 am Post subject: |
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| I think the IC is fine if you can buy your own insurance and pension. Just make sure they are paying a minimum of 30,000 won an hour and up. I knew a CDI dude who made slightly more than the 2.2 average after all these things were deducted, but he took Wednesdays off. He worked Mon, Tues, Thurs, and Fri. He arrived at 3:30 and left around 10:30ish. He didn't seem to mind it. But, it was a franchise location. Maybe the main ones are really anal. I don't know much about that. Having an ajossi boss does really suck. Had one at my local ed office once and transferred to another town. (I work in public schools.) |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| I can't speak to work conditions. I have no stake in defending CDI. But doing the math on IC, it can work for you if you have a certain hourly wage. Below 30 an hour and you're a dolt for accepting. Thirty is bare, bare minimum to buy your insurance and pension with and still be slightly higher than average based on 4 day work week and moderately higher than average based on a 5 day work week. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| I think the IC is fine if you can buy your own insurance and pension. |
I'd think it would be fine, also, if:
- the employer didn't own your visa
- you could get extra work without the employer's permission
It's not really IC. It's fraud and the employee is the victim, willing or not. |
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