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TripleBz
Joined: 22 Dec 2008
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 Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 8:57 am Post subject: "Cheating SAT hagwon to be closed for good" |
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http://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2013/05/116_136393.html
Anyone got the skinny on which places were closed, fined, or are being investigated?
I'm wondering if this is the beginning of true change or just the same old routine and everything will go back to business as usual once this dies down. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| They'll change the name to "Fun Fun English" and be outside handing out balloons and signing up kids in no time. |
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salutbonjour
Joined: 22 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Why doesn't ETS get their shit together? When their "test" has such a huge impact on college admission, I am surprised leaks happen by "distributing questions in advance". They need to review their internal processes and fire whoever leaks the questions, not go on a worldwide hunt for students who cheated.
If you want to stop a chemical leak, you don't try to remove the leaked chemicals before fixing the leak itself. |
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PEIGUY
Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Omokgyo
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Different name with a different "owner" ie borrowed ID #. From what I read they got the questions from SAT's that were already held in other countries. |
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salutbonjour
Joined: 22 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| PEIGUY wrote: |
| Different name with a different "owner" ie borrowed ID #. From what I read they got the questions from SAT's that were already held in other countries. |
This happened before with people going to different time zones to get the questions merely hours ahead. Yet ETS still doesn't have it together in terms of security. |
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Chaucer
Joined: 20 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 7:05 pm Post subject: Prosecution |
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| And Korea is investigating it as if ETS were some sort of foreign government, and not a private company--albeit "non profit". |
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chickenpie
Joined: 24 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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How did they get the answers in the first place?
Not a very well run test if the answers are available in other countries before hand. |
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GoldMember
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| Will the real Mr Kim/Choi/Lee/Park please standup. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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We call it 'cheating', and they call it 'getting ahead'. This kind of idiot does nothing but give support to the belief that Korea is a nation of inveterate cheaters. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| salutbonjour wrote: |
| PEIGUY wrote: |
| Different name with a different "owner" ie borrowed ID #. From what I read they got the questions from SAT's that were already held in other countries. |
This happened before with people going to different time zones to get the questions merely hours ahead. Yet ETS still doesn't have it together in terms of security. |
I knew two guys in the Navy who pulled that stunt for the promotion exam: One guy ashore a few time zones away from the guy on the ship. They got caught because they forgot one very important thing about using the INMARSAT telephone while the ship was in the Persian Gulf: all calls were monitored. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| chickenpie wrote: |
| How did they get the answers in the first place? |
People who've taken the test recall what the questions were and sell that information. People who've worked for the test-writers recall the questions that were written over the past. People who run the test falsify reports of destroying the paper copies of unused tests.
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| Not a very well run test if the answers are available in other countries before hand. |
Not necessarily correct. There's no way to get people who've taken a test to forget the questions they took. Now, if the current questions were leaked prior to their first use in an exam, that's a completely different story. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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The Korean Times barely qualifies as "Korean media". Most Korean media is written/spoken in Korean.
And this was written under the heading of "Opinion" meaning what ONE person thinks. Again hardly representative of "Korean media."
Who is this one person? Well he doesn't even LIVE in Korea he is in Washington D.C. Again hardly representative of "Korean media"
Good thing this is a discussion forum and not a baseball game 'cause you've already got 3 strikes. |
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