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Julius
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 Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:44 am Post subject: Australian PM Gillard ousted |
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Can't be easy being a woman politician in Australia.
Hardly surprising in a nation that has reduced half of its female population to being skimpy barmaids. |
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Fox
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| Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| So this is the end of articles popping up in my news feed virtually every day wherein the political opponents of Julia Gillard are accused of sexism? I don't have a problem with her policies (at least to the limited extent that I know of them, given I pay much less attention to Australia's politics than those of the other anglo nations), but the endless whining -- not just by her proxies, but by her personally -- is sickening, and it's hard to blame the Australian people for also being sick of it. For better or worse, there's more to political leadership than just passing laws. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: Australian PM Gillard ousted |
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| Julius wrote: |
Hardly surprising in a nation that has reduced half of its female population to being skimpy barmaids. |
Totally uncalled for. |
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Spartacist
Joined: 18 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Saying that the opposition Gillard faced is simply due to sexism is overly reductive. No doubt it played a part, but also the Australian electorate never forgot that she knifed Rudd in the back with the help of backroom players in the Labour Party, and never enjoyed the public's full support after that. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| That particular phrase, "...knifed Rudd in the back..." is showing up all over the place. I just searched Google for exact matches only and got over 8000 hits. It's probably a line crafted and put into circulate by her opposition to demonize her rather than any genuine, naturally-occurring sentiment in the electorate. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| That particular phrase, "...knifed Rudd in the back..." is showing up all over the place. I just searched Google for exact matches only and got over 8000 hits. It's probably a line crafted and put into circulate by her opposition to demonize her rather than any genuine, naturally-occurring sentiment in the electorate. |
Or maybe it is a commonly used phrase that shows the lack of creativity by most people? |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:28 am Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
Or maybe it is a commonly used phrase that shows the lack of creativity by most people? |
lol.
Yeeh mayt! How ya gaaan? drinkeen piss! |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| Spartacist wrote: |
| Saying that the opposition Gillard faced is simply due to sexism is overly reductive. |
Fair go mayt.
When you see the way many redneck aussie males objectify and devalue the sheelaghs amongst them then its not hard to imagine what poor old Ms Gillard had to go through.
Besides, any PM is best judged by their record in office. |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| Spartacist wrote: |
| Saying that the opposition Gillard faced is simply due to sexism is overly reductive. |
Fair go mayt.
When you see the way many redneck aussie males objectify and devalue the sheelaghs amongst them then its not hard to imagine what poor old Ms Gillard had to go through.
Besides, any PM is best judged by their record in office. |
Correct and hers was appalling. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| Axiom wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
| any PM is best judged by their record in office. |
Correct and hers was appalling. |
She delivered 14% economic growth. |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| Axiom wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
| any PM is best judged by their record in office. |
Correct and hers was appalling. |
She delivered 14% economic growth. |
Business, and in particular mining, delivered 14% economic growth despite her not because of her. |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Axiom wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
| Spartacist wrote: |
| Saying that the opposition Gillard faced is simply due to sexism is overly reductive. |
Fair go mayt.
When you see the way many redneck aussie males objectify and devalue the sheelaghs amongst them then its not hard to imagine what poor old Ms Gillard had to go through.
Besides, any PM is best judged by their record in office. |
Correct and hers was appalling. |
Not that her replacement is any better.
He's the blonde guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8 |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| Axiom wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
| any PM is best judged by their record in office. |
Correct and hers was appalling. |
She delivered 14% economic growth. |
In this thread you said:
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But its amazing how generally unaware people are of a far more important factor.
Our modern economies are unsustainable.
They are based on short term exploitation and degradation of our environment. Globally, our natural operating systems- the oceans, the forests..and everything else that works together to make life on earth possible... are on their last legs. By 2025 there is projected to be 800 million Chinese. If they all want big macs and fast cars then...we need another planet.
It can't continue.
Our financial system is ultimately based on natural resources. Water, clean air, healthy ecosystems.
Either people learn to think beyond churning out babies and consuming, or the system as we know it is going to come to a shuddering halt. |
I agreed with you then. But now, suddenly, in defense of Julia Gillard, you are holding up a 14% growth in that "unsustainable" economy which "can't continue" as a sign of success? By your own standard, you should be condemning that upward spike in materialistic consumption.
So which is it? Is consumeristic economic growth good or bad? Is it an unsustainable thing which cannot continue, or should political leaders be applauded and supported when they preside over sharp increases in economic activity? |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| That particular phrase, "...knifed Rudd in the back..." is showing up all over the place. I just searched Google for exact matches only and got over 8000 hits. It's probably a line crafted and put into circulate by her opposition to demonize her rather than any genuine, naturally-occurring sentiment in the electorate. |
Or maybe it is a commonly used phrase that shows the lack of creativity by most people? |
That's possible, but whenever I see a phrase bouncing around like this, I cannot help but think of people like Frank Luntz, and wonder if someone in the same line of work isn't ultimately responsible for it. |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| That particular phrase, "...knifed Rudd in the back..." is showing up all over the place. I just searched Google for exact matches only and got over 8000 hits. It's probably a line crafted and put into circulate by her opposition to demonize her rather than any genuine, naturally-occurring sentiment in the electorate. |
Or maybe it is a commonly used phrase that shows the lack of creativity by most people? |
That's possible, but whenever I see a phrase bouncing around like this, I cannot help but think of people like Frank Luntz, and wonder if someone in the same line of work isn't ultimately responsible for it. |
Or it could just be a proper use of the word.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/knifed?&o=100074&s=t
knifed
knife [nahyf] Show IPA noun, plural knives [nahyvz] Show IPA , verb, knifed, knif·ing.
noun
1.
an instrument for cutting, consisting essentially of a thin, sharp-edged, metal blade fitted with a handle.
2.
a knifelike weapon; dagger or short sword.
3.
any blade for cutting, as in a tool or machine.
verb (used with object)
4.
to apply a knife to; cut, stab, etc., with a knife.
5.
to attempt to defeat or undermine in a secret or underhanded way. |
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