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Neozenha



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:53 pm    Post subject: What does the future of Korea look like in terms of... Reply with quote

The multicultural factor, the amount of foreigners now and what could happen in a few years?

So I can't find any demographics or statistics on how many foreigners there are in Korea living, working or visiting within the last year or this year. Can anyone give me some percentages? Also how do you think the amount of foreigners in Korea will change within the next few years?

I also wonder about the multicultural thing about Korea, what is it like right now and what will it be like within the next few years.

In my opinion, it's a nice for Koreans to be open minded about other cultures and people but I think that it might affect Korea in a negative way? I mean, they open up to more cultures, different people and will lose a Korean community feeling, maybe the foreigners will not respect the Korean culture, it may force more Koreans to know English, it may not feel as safe and it might cause arguments and all sorts of problems etc.
Don't Korean people look down on the multicultural marriage? Like if a American, British... (I don't know if I wanted to say "white") dates or marries a Korean girl etc.

I don't know, what do you think?
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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huh?
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear the Jeolla provinces will have legions of biracial kids attending school over the next few years, and this will greatly alter the Korean landscape.

Given that divorce is growingly more accepted in Korea, Korean men especially will be more open to getting a non-Korean wife, probably from Southeast Asia. I recently found a pho store near my home run by a Vietnamese woman married to a Korean man. Their young daughter was at the store and spoke perfect Korean and Vietnamese.
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Paddycakes



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you Korean?
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Neozenha



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddycakes wrote:
Are you Korean?


No, that's why I'm asking.
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nicwr2002



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: What does the future of Korea look like in terms of... Reply with quote

Neozenha wrote:

In my opinion, it's a nice for Koreans to be open minded about other cultures and people but I think that it might affect Korea in a negative way? I mean, they open up to more cultures, different people and will lose a Korean community feeling, maybe the foreigners will not respect the Korean culture, it may force more Koreans to know English, it may not feel as safe and it might cause arguments and all sorts of problems etc.
Don't Korean people look down on the multicultural marriage? Like if a American, British... (I don't know if I wanted to say "white") dates or marries a Korean girl etc.

I don't know, what do you think?


It's already happened to their neighboring country in terms of the amount of foreigners and having an impact. They won't loose their community feeling I think. I think foreigners would respect Korean culture more if they were to be more open-minded about other cultures. Korea's neighboring country has done a great job in blending traditional ways with modern while still keeping their identity.
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:56 am    Post subject: Re: What does the future of Korea look like in terms of... Reply with quote

Neozenha wrote:
The multicultural factor, the amount of foreigners now and what could happen in a few years?

So I can't find any demographics or statistics on how many foreigners there are in Korea living, working or visiting within the last year or this year. Can anyone give me some percentages? Also how do you think the amount of foreigners in Korea will change within the next few years?

I also wonder about the multicultural thing about Korea, what is it like right now and what will it be like within the next few years.

In my opinion, it's a nice for Koreans to be open minded about other cultures and people but I think that it might affect Korea in a negative way? I mean, they open up to more cultures, different people and will lose a Korean community feeling, maybe the foreigners will not respect the Korean culture, it may force more Koreans to know English, it may not feel as safe and it might cause arguments and all sorts of problems etc.
Don't Korean people look down on the multicultural marriage? Like if a American, British... (I don't know if I wanted to say "white") dates or marries a Korean girl etc.

I don't know, what do you think?


According to immigration (2011 numbers - the most recent available) there are about 2.5 million foreign nationals in Korea on various visas including non-Korean spouses of Korean nationals and permanent residents who have not been naturalized as citizens.

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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:06 am    Post subject: Re: What does the future of Korea look like in terms of... Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Neozenha wrote:
The multicultural factor, the amount of foreigners now and what could happen in a few years?

So I can't find any demographics or statistics on how many foreigners there are in Korea living, working or visiting within the last year or this year. Can anyone give me some percentages? Also how do you think the amount of foreigners in Korea will change within the next few years?

I also wonder about the multicultural thing about Korea, what is it like right now and what will it be like within the next few years.

In my opinion, it's a nice for Koreans to be open minded about other cultures and people but I think that it might affect Korea in a negative way? I mean, they open up to more cultures, different people and will lose a Korean community feeling, maybe the foreigners will not respect the Korean culture, it may force more Koreans to know English, it may not feel as safe and it might cause arguments and all sorts of problems etc.
Don't Korean people look down on the multicultural marriage? Like if a American, British... (I don't know if I wanted to say "white") dates or marries a Korean girl etc.

I don't know, what do you think?


According to immigration (2011 numbers - the most recent available) there are about 2.5 million foreign nationals in Korea on various visas including non-Korean spouses of Korean nationals and permanent residents who have not been naturalized as citizens.

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All it would take is another IMF like crisis and you'll see 2 million of that number gone in 6 months.
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Neozenha



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:33 am    Post subject: Re: What does the future of Korea look like in terms of... Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Neozenha wrote:
The multicultural factor, the amount of foreigners now and what could happen in a few years?

So I can't find any demographics or statistics on how many foreigners there are in Korea living, working or visiting within the last year or this year. Can anyone give me some percentages? Also how do you think the amount of foreigners in Korea will change within the next few years?

I also wonder about the multicultural thing about Korea, what is it like right now and what will it be like within the next few years.

In my opinion, it's a nice for Koreans to be open minded about other cultures and people but I think that it might affect Korea in a negative way? I mean, they open up to more cultures, different people and will lose a Korean community feeling, maybe the foreigners will not respect the Korean culture, it may force more Koreans to know English, it may not feel as safe and it might cause arguments and all sorts of problems etc.
Don't Korean people look down on the multicultural marriage? Like if a American, British... (I don't know if I wanted to say "white") dates or marries a Korean girl etc.

I don't know, what do you think?


According to immigration (2011 numbers - the most recent available) there are about 2.5 million foreign nationals in Korea on various visas including non-Korean spouses of Korean nationals and permanent residents who have not been naturalized as citizens.

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How many Koreans are there in the first place? Is 2.5 million a lot?
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:43 am    Post subject: Re: What does the future of Korea look like in terms of... Reply with quote

Neozenha wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
Neozenha wrote:
The multicultural factor, the amount of foreigners now and what could happen in a few years?

So I can't find any demographics or statistics on how many foreigners there are in Korea living, working or visiting within the last year or this year. Can anyone give me some percentages? Also how do you think the amount of foreigners in Korea will change within the next few years?

I also wonder about the multicultural thing about Korea, what is it like right now and what will it be like within the next few years.

In my opinion, it's a nice for Koreans to be open minded about other cultures and people but I think that it might affect Korea in a negative way? I mean, they open up to more cultures, different people and will lose a Korean community feeling, maybe the foreigners will not respect the Korean culture, it may force more Koreans to know English, it may not feel as safe and it might cause arguments and all sorts of problems etc.
Don't Korean people look down on the multicultural marriage? Like if a American, British... (I don't know if I wanted to say "white") dates or marries a Korean girl etc.

I don't know, what do you think?


According to immigration (2011 numbers - the most recent available) there are about 2.5 million foreign nationals in Korea on various visas including non-Korean spouses of Korean nationals and permanent residents who have not been naturalized as citizens.

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How many Koreans are there in the first place? Is 2.5 million a lot?


About 5% of people in Korea are foreigners (defined as being those who require a visa and/or ARC to remain in Korea).

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Neozenha



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So... anymore opinions? Smile
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cdninkorea



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:12 am    Post subject: Re: What does the future of Korea look like in terms of... Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
All it would take is another IMF like crisis and you'll see 2 million of that number gone in 6 months.


The housewives from Vietnam, the Philippines, etc. don't exactly have a lot of options; otherwise they wouldn't have married men they barely knew (who are twice their age).

Also, I'm curious: Does that 2.5 million foreigners include military and diplomatic staff?
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cabeza



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Military and diplomatic staff wouldn't make much of an impact either way.
30,000 US troops? Diplomatic staff in the thousands, max.

Living in Jeolla I do notice a lot of S.E Asian women. They all seem to be part of the neighbourhood Korean mother's gossip circle that convenes at the pavillion outside the entrance of my apartment every afternoon.

Who knows what proportion of foreign nationals is made of what group. From personal experince it seems S.E Asian wives would make up a fairly big chunck. The 3D workers from South Asia and SE Asia are, i assume, temporary?

As far as multi-culturalism? Whether people here like to admit it or not the government is doing somethings to help. Don't they offer free child care to multi cultural families? And other financial assitance. My guess is that some Koreans will bitch and moan about it and the polluting of the pure blood line. But slowly that will fade away. Though it may take a generation or two.
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Seoulman69



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
In my opinion, it's a nice for Koreans to be open minded about other cultures and people but I think that it might affect Korea in a negative way? I mean, they open up to more cultures, different people and will lose a Korean community feeling, maybe the foreigners will not respect the Korean culture, it may force more Koreans to know English, it may not feel as safe and it might cause arguments and all sorts of problems etc.
Don't Korean people look down on the multicultural marriage? Like if a American, British... (I don't know if I wanted to say "white") dates or marries a Korean girl etc.


Seems a bit troll-ish and possible with a couple of basic English errors possibly not a native English speaker.
But anyway, here is my opinion:
Korean culture will need to adapt. Not just because of an increase in foreigners, but because of the demands within Korea. Young people, women, married couples - many people want change in Korea. Maybe that's the influence of being exposed to different cultures but maybe that's a good thing. Right now I see Korea making attempts to incorporate mixed race children into Korean society. This won't happen overnight but it's in Korea's best interests to make sure these kids feel part of Korean society to avoid these children feeling disenfranchised.
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Julius



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulman69 wrote:
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In my opinion, it's a nice for Koreans to be open minded about other cultures and people but I think that it might affect Korea in a negative way? I mean, they open up to more cultures, different people and will lose a Korean community feeling, maybe the foreigners will not respect the Korean culture, it may force more Koreans to know English, it may not feel as safe and it might cause arguments and all sorts of problems etc.
Don't Korean people look down on the multicultural marriage? Like if a American, British... (I don't know if I wanted to say "white") dates or marries a Korean girl etc.


Seems a bit troll-ish and possible with a couple of basic English errors possibly not a native English speaker.
But anyway, here is my opinion:
Korean culture will need to adapt. Not just because of an increase in foreigners, but because of the demands within Korea. Young people, women, married couples - many people want change in Korea. Maybe that's the influence of being exposed to different cultures but maybe that's a good thing. Right now I see Korea making attempts to incorporate mixed race children into Korean society. This won't happen overnight but it's in Korea's best interests to make sure these kids feel part of Korean society to avoid these children feeling disenfranchised.



I see a lot of positive changes happening and every year its slightly different.

The younger generation is very different to the older one. More optimistic and more curious about the outside world.

The anti-foreignerism has reduced too, compared to what it was ten years back.
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