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tremazing87
Joined: 18 Apr 2011 Location: Washington, DC
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:34 am Post subject: Should I Go to Work If My Contract Lapses? |
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I've been at my school for 2 years and I was offered a renewal via email a few months ago for a 3rd year. The problem is, I have yet to receive the new contract and my current contract ends tomorrow. I have the original email from my job asking me for my decision to renew my contract as well as the 3 emails from myself (dated 2 months, 2 weeks and 2 days before the end of the contract) stating my desire to renew and to sign a new contract.
(Question 1)
My question is whether or not I should go to work the day after my contract is finished if I haven't received a new one.
Technically my visa doesn't expire for another month but from my understanding, immigration still says working outside of a contract, even with time on the visa, isn't okay. I have a coworker who worked for nearly 2 weeks outside of his contract waiting for the school to give him a new one, and this isn't an uncommon thing at my school. I have another coworker who was denied a renewal less than a week before their contract expired because they didn't receive a new background check, but they were never told they needed to do anything to that regard in all of their previous conversations with human resources.
Honestly, part of me doesn't want to show up to work because I want to see what they would do if I didn't. My school (specifically one human resources manager) has been steadily screwing over foreign teachers for quite some time without consequence and it's gone unnoticed by their superiors because almost everyone has been too afraid to stand up for themselves. This is likely my last contract in Korea anyway, I have multiple recommendation letters from supervising teachers, I'm generally well respected at my school and it seems that I have enough documentation to have immigration on my side in this situation. If worse comes to worst, I'm not worried about having to leave, although I'm almost positive the school would give me a new contract eventually if I continued working and immediately if I refused to work without one, but is that a wise decision?
(Question 2)
Also, if they give me a contract, how much time is reasonable to read/consider it before signing. Is it unreasonable for me to ask for 24 hours to read and review the contract before signing it and to have it start the day after I turn it in?
In other words, if they did end up giving me the contract tomorrow, would it be unreasonable for me to ask for 24 hours to look over it before turning it in, therefore still needing that next day off (considering that day as a break between contracts due to their negligence in waiting so late)? From coworkers, I've heard that the new contract has changed considerably from the last and I don't think it's unfair to ask for a short amount of time to think it over. |
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Porksta
Joined: 05 May 2011
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| Have you told them that you have not received a contract? |
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tremazing87
Joined: 18 Apr 2011 Location: Washington, DC
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| I've told them. Both in emails and in person. |
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War Eagle
Joined: 15 Feb 2009
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Whatever decision you make, it sounds like you are fed up with this school. I base this off the fact you seem ready to argue over very minor details before you will be committing to a 3rd year.
I say this sincerely and not to troll: maybe you'd be happier finding another school at which to do your 3rd and final year. |
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peachKitten713
Joined: 13 May 2013
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| War Eagle wrote: |
Whatever decision you make, it sounds like you are fed up with this school. I base this off the fact you seem ready to argue over very minor details before you will be committing to a 3rd year.
I say this sincerely and not to troll: maybe you'd be happier finding another school at which to do your 3rd and final year. |
I'm kinda getting this vibe, too.
But to answer your question, OP: I think you should have told them at least a week ago that they needed to give you your new contract with at least 1-2 days to look over it BEFORE the end of your current contract or unfortunately you wouldn't be able to come to school until you signed a new one. (Oh you want to come, of course, but since it would be illegal, you wouldn't want to get yourself or your great school into any trouble with the law. ^^) Although you say that you told them you needed the new contract, it seems that you weren't very firm with it..? (Sorry if I've misunderstood.) However at this point, if you like the job and people, I think maybe you should just go to work anyway (maybe a little early) and let them know that you need to look over the new contract NOW if they want you to teach today (tomorrow). Or call the co-teacher/head-teacher/whoever you normally talk to about issues and let them know NOW (the evening before). If you're not too afraid of 'working illegally' then maybe you could go ahead and work that one day, but still be sure to get the new contract before lunch (at least before you leave that day).
Anyway, my two cents. Good luck with whatever you decide to do~!  |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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The day after your contract expires, go to immigration and apply for a D10 (there is nothing they can do about it).
Then the choices are yours... find a better job, stay where you are (it becomes their hassle to change you back to an E2) or change countries.
New documents are not needed to extend, change or transfer as long as your ARC has remained valid (E2 or D10).
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
The day after your contract expires, go to immigration and apply for a D10 (there is nothing they can do about it).
Then the choices are yours... find a better job, stay where you are (it becomes their hassle to change you back to an E2) or change countries.
New documents are not needed to extend, change or transfer as long as your ARC has remained valid (E2 or D10).
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If they don't have the courtesy to give you a new contract by this time then just find another job. Get that D10 and have no worries about that old school. |
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