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rockbilly
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 Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:44 am Post subject: NEAT the worst English proficiency test ever? |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Lol. So NEAT II is in order? |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Ha,ha. The foreign tests were too hard.
Here's a funny one from my elementary school, grade 4 (I think she was):
Student: (speaking Korean) Teacher, teacher. English test 100.
Me: (speaking Korean) In English?
Student: (speaking Korean) I don't know. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Friends, I ask you:
"The light will blink orange-to-red." HUNNNNNNNNH?
Answers:
A [whatever]
B The light will blink orange
C The light will blink red
D [whatever] |
Well, this could double up as being a driving test too. Pass this test and you can work for some company abroad and drive their company car.
"Keep a safe distance from the car in front of you"
A [whatever]
B Don't drive too close to other cars
C Never cross a street with cars too close to the crossing
D [whatever]
I always thought it was a yellow light, not orange. |
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T-dot
Joined: 16 May 2004
Location: bundang
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| Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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NEAT was not developed to replace English Proficiency tests like TOEFL, TOEIC etc...
The plan is/was to use NEAT as a replacement for the English portion of the KSAT.
Its a poor test. |
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chickenpie
Joined: 24 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Everything YBM touches seems to be tainted. From textbooks to tests. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: NEAT the worst English proficiency test ever? |
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| rockbilly wrote: |
It's gotta be said that the sound recordings were made by native speakers, and the text was impeccably edited and proofread--SO SOMEWHERE AMONG THIS AUDIENCE ARE CULPRITS.
Fess up, if you're responsible! |
I'm not responsible. But having been involved with such matters over the years, I can tell you with certainty that the editors involved 1) have very little involvement in the production of these materials in the overall process; and 2) often see their advice freely get ignored, especially if they do not know how to spoon-feed it to their coworkers/superiors.
I would bet money that the orange-to-red incident was someone who had busted open The Ancient Tome of English Grammar Rules, written way back in 1657 or something, which declared that particular grammar structure to have a very exact, unmitigated meaning.
Bonus points if said person had a little heart-to-heart session with the editor to correct this grievous misunderstanding of the English language by a native speaker who obviously is unfamiliar with the intricacies of the language's grammar.
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| I'm just standing by in a kind of semi-advisory role, and frankly told my Korean boss yesterday that I thought the test was b-s$it. |
Suuuuuuuuuuuurrrrre, advisory role, you had nothing to do with your employer's flubbing up the NEAT.  |
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rockbilly
Joined: 19 Mar 2013
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| Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:45 am Post subject: The National KONGLISH Ability Test |
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| T-dot wrote: |
NEAT was not developed to replace English Proficiency tests like TOEFL, TOEIC etc...
The plan is/was to use NEAT as a replacement for the English portion of the KSAT.
Its a poor test. |
Yes, it's a piss-poor test, but think again about what's intended.
The intention is to show that Korea can manage the English-testing business as well as anyone else, and doesn't need ETS or any other . . . cough . . . foreign enterprise involved.
The NEAT will TOTALLY replace all other English-proficiency tests in SK if the govt. has its way--trust me on this.
But it's a badly, badly conceived and executed thing, an abortion. Most native speakers of English would have trouble passing--I promise you--if only because there are far too many questions posed in far too short a length of time.
I've tried explaining to one or two people involved that there are millions and millions of very stupid people out there who are thoroughly proficient in English. Don't make it an IQ test; make it an English test.
My words are falling on deaf ears.
Additionally, the English being tested for is "textbook" to an absurd degree, but Koreanized.
Let's just call it the National KONGLISH Ability Test. |
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