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Hatcher
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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 Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:03 pm Post subject: Alphabet Soup - who has what degree? |
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I am curious if anyone knows what percentage of ESL teachers in Korea have a master's or PhD. What percentage have a CELTA or DELTA?
I would guess that more than 50% of uni instructors have a master's. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: Alphabet Soup - who has what degree? |
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| Hatcher wrote: |
I am curious if anyone knows what percentage of ESL teachers in Korea have a master's or PhD. What percentage have a CELTA or DELTA?
I would guess that more than 50% of uni instructors have a master's. |
Not sure about post graduate, higher level qualifications (Master and above) but a large percentage of PS staff now hold a TEFL cert (or did you specifically mean the CELTA as in the Cambridge brand of TEFL cert?).
DELTAs on the other hand are few and far between and almost an enigma (paradoxically the DELTA is aimed at continued professional development for use in the classroom but a large number of DELTA holders move out of the classroom and into "admin" type positions).
Having said all that, there ARE a large number of (not necessarily related to teaching) MA holders who have transitioned into EFL for any number of reasons not the least of which was being downsized or made redundant at their jobs in their home countries (UK and USA being two large contributors - globally).
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Weigookin74
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| Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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big_fella1
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Anyone with a doctorate in philosophy from Oxford would have a D.Phil not a PhD.
Anyone with an undergraduate arts degree from the traditional Scottish universities has an MA. Also some graduates of Oxford, Cambridge, and Dublin university are in the same boat.
It's not advertised but there are a lot of MBAs out there that don't have an undergraduate degree and not only from Australia. I have met guys from the US, UK and Korea who have an MBA from their own country but no undergraduate degree. Not too many of them are English teachers though.
I knew a teacher who claimed to have a BA, Juris Doctor, and a PhD who was teaching kindergarten here. I did wonder about his qualifications though. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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I would say that is somewhat unusual but not without precedent.
Some of us (myself included) have an office wall full of sheepskins (BA., B.Com., B.Sc., MA., MBA, ABD (all earned at brick and mortar universities before "internet options" even existed)) and still decide to move down the scale from lecturing at a uni to working with young learners.
(Some of us have done well (on a personal and financial level) working with young learners.
I opened my newly constructed school building this year with 500 kids in kindy:
http://s293.photobucket.com/user/ttompatz/media/frontdoorkg.jpg.html
http://s293.photobucket.com/user/ttompatz/media/openday1.jpg.html )
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big_fella1
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
I would say that is somewhat unusual but not without precedent.
Some of us (myself included) have an office wall full of sheepskins (BA., B.Com., B.Sc., MA., MBA, ABD (all earned at brick and mortar universities before "internet options" even existed)) and still decide to move down the scale from lecturing at a uni to working with young learners.
(Some of us have done well (on a personal and financial level) working with young learners.
I opened my newly constructed school building this year with 500 kids in kindy:
http://s293.photobucket.com/user/ttompatz/media/frontdoorkg.jpg.html
http://s293.photobucket.com/user/ttompatz/media/openday1.jpg.html )
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Point taken but this guy was working at a Wonderland.
As far as on-campus versus distance I found on-campus easier. What does concern me is that the essier access to information via the web hasn't really lead to an increase in the quality of research produced. I can get 20 journal papers in a short time although to be honest they don't all get read unless the abstract is what I'm looking for. Pre web getting 20 jornal articles must have involved at least a day of searching. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| big_fella1 wrote: |
Anyone with a doctorate in philosophy from Oxford would have a D.Phil not a PhD.
Anyone with an undergraduate arts degree from the traditional Scottish universities has an MA. Also some graduates of Oxford, Cambridge, and Dublin university are in the same boat.
It's not advertised but there are a lot of MBAs out there that don't have an undergraduate degree and not only from Australia. I have met guys from the US, UK and Korea who have an MBA from their own country but no undergraduate degree. Not too many of them are English teachers though.
I knew a teacher who claimed to have a BA, Juris Doctor, and a PhD who was teaching kindergarten here. I did wonder about his qualifications though. |
A JD teaching Kindy, why? I knew someone here with that teaching law at a Korean university. The law schools here must have a foriegn law professor. Maybe he really liked what he was doing.... |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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M.S. - Astrophysics  |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| big_fella1 wrote: |
| Point taken but this guy was working at a Wonderland. |
And I moved from a university in BC to the National Police University in Yongin to KWAKS English Country (kindy - not too different from a Wonderland) and EOS kindy (Yongtong - Suwon) and a Gyeonggi public school about 10km east of Bundang.
We all make our own pathways and even though they may be somewhat convoluted we all end up where we belong eventually.
Point was that there ARE a lot of decent, very well educated people working here in Korea (in spite of what it sometimes seems like here on Dave's or the bars in Hongdae or Itaewon).
Take a trip to a KOTESOL (or other related) conference some day.
You'd be surprised at the credentials of many of those who attend.
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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My degree's adequate.
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:20 am Post subject: |
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BFA double major: Creative Writing & Honors English. MA English Lit. All earned on campus.
I sincerely enjoy teaching young teens basic efl. |
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big_fella1
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:48 am Post subject: |
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University of Ballarat in Australia has a Graduate Cerificate or Graduate Diploma in Brewing.
Grad.Dip.Brew. would look good on a business card. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
I would say that is somewhat unusual but not without precedent.
Some of us (myself included) have an office wall full of sheepskins (BA., B.Com., B.Sc., MA., MBA, ABD (all earned at brick and mortar universities before "internet options" even existed)) and still decide to move down the scale from lecturing at a uni to working with young learners.
(Some of us have done well (on a personal and financial level) working with young learners.
I opened my newly constructed school building this year with 500 kids in kindy:
http://s293.photobucket.com/user/ttompatz/media/frontdoorkg.jpg.html
http://s293.photobucket.com/user/ttompatz/media/openday1.jpg.html )
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Congratulations on your schools. I think young learners is where the money would be if you're entreprenuerial. (I know I mispelled that. Lol.) |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:03 am Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
I would say that is somewhat unusual but not without precedent.
Some of us (myself included) have an office wall full of sheepskins (BA., B.Com., B.Sc., MA., MBA, ABD (all earned at brick and mortar universities before "internet options" even existed)) and still decide to move down the scale from lecturing at a uni to working with young learners.
(Some of us have done well (on a personal and financial level) working with young learners.
I opened my newly constructed school building this year with 500 kids in kindy:
http://s293.photobucket.com/user/ttompatz/media/frontdoorkg.jpg.html
http://s293.photobucket.com/user/ttompatz/media/openday1.jpg.html )
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Congratulations on your schools. I think young learners is where the money would be if you're entreprenuerial. (I know I mispelled that. Lol.) |
I also have 400 kids in elementary and 300 in middle school.
entrepreneurial, misspelled, nah...
Have some knowledge of what I speak... maybe...
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RangerMcGreggor
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
Location: Somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:03 am Post subject: |
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BA in History and Political Science
*insert joke* |
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