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i know how fan death is caused.
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mgafunnell



Joined: 11 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:22 am    Post subject: i know how fan death is caused. Reply with quote

Keeping the fan on in an unventilated room can cause a convection current (in hot weather) causing a body to dehydrate. this becomes a little more magnified if the person is elderly or had been drinking large amounts of alcohol.
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats funny, when I did my midwifery training, I was told/read recent research that said having a fan on will reduce cot death by over 70 percent. In terms of evidence, that's substantial enough to not be coincidence or speculation. Also, babies are pretty much weaker than old people in terms of physiology (to relate it to your guesstimate). Is your theory substantiated by any scientific research?
If not, shut up. Im tired of hearing about this crap and how drinking ModEdit makes you healthy and how kimchi is the healthiest food and how blah blah...


for further reading;

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2008/10October/Pages/Cotdeathriskandfanuse.aspx
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only way a fan could kill you is if it catches on fire and burns your house down or if it falls from a shelf and lands on your head.

PS. The Chosun Ilbo recently published an article in which it explains why fan death is a myth.
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Old fat expat



Joined: 19 Sep 2005
Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps your 'convection current' causes an uncontrolled updraft resulting in towering anvil headed clouds that cause a deadly lightening bolt to strike a hat rack that then falls on the poor, unsuspecting, but stupid victim. Very Happy
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080831235229AA1NLJv

A convection current is a flow of a fluid or air due to heating and cooling of the fluid or air. IE: Hot air rises. Cold air falls. If there is local heating of the air at some point, a convection current will be set up. An on shore breeze is one example. Here, the air that is heated by the land rises and moves out over the ocean where it is cooled and falls. the cool air moves inland as a breeze to complete the cycle.

The Gulf Stream in the Atlantic ocean is another example. Warm water from the Gulf of Mexico moves north along the eastern USA while cold water from the Polar region moves south along the coasts of Europe.


So this causes fan death? Whoodathunkit!
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Nester Noodlemon



Joined: 16 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: i know how fan death is caused. Reply with quote

mgafunnell wrote:
Keeping the fan on in an unventilated room can cause a convection current (in hot weather) causing a body to dehydrate. this becomes a little more magnified if the person is elderly or had been drinking large amounts of alcohol.


EX. Person is 106 yrs. and their doctor has said they have at best a week longer to live. Person consumes alcohol to the point of having a toxic alcohol blood percentage ratio.
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drcrazy



Joined: 19 Feb 2003
Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan

PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fan death spelled backward is: " htaed anf". Shocked
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see a lack of oxygen due to an airtight room, after sleeping several hours.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
I can see a lack of oxygen due to an airtight room, after sleeping several hours.


Airtight? Have you actually noticed the quality of construction in Korea?
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
I can see a lack of oxygen due to an airtight room, after sleeping several hours.


You're kidding?

1. Very few places anywhere have really airtight rooms.

2. It would have to be a REALLY tiny room for you to run out of oxygen in a few hours as well as being totally airtight.

3. Fans don't take away oxygen in the air, so in such a case you would die with or without the fan going.

Sure there's a risk that if you have a fan pointed directly at you for hours while sleeping in a very hot room where you're just blowing hot air at yourself that you could get some kind of heat stroke (http://www.weather.com/video/electric-fan-and-heat-danger-38181). But that's kind of it. Fans don't take away oxygen.
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drcrazy



Joined: 19 Feb 2003
Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan

PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once had a fan that started to vibrate on its own, then it fell off a table and broke when it hit the floor. I think that was fan suicide!!!!! Shocked
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlelisa wrote:
Swampfox10mm wrote:
I can see a lack of oxygen due to an airtight room, after sleeping several hours.


You're kidding?

1. Very few places anywhere have really airtight rooms.

2. It would have to be a REALLY tiny room for you to run out of oxygen in a few hours as well as being totally airtight.

3. Fans don't take away oxygen in the air, so in such a case you would die with or without the fan going.

Sure there's a risk that if you have a fan pointed directly at you for hours while sleeping in a very hot room where you're just blowing hot air at yourself that you could get some kind of heat stroke (http://www.weather.com/video/electric-fan-and-heat-danger-38181). But that's kind of it. Fans don't take away oxygen.


I never said fans take away oxygen. I spoke of an airtight room being a believable cause. If your room is not airtight, then you won't have a problem. And yes, I've lived in Korea for over a decade. Unlike you, I actually own property here, and I have moved 8 times. Believe me, I know all about the differences in construction quality.

Interesting fact about new homes in the central USA now... they are required to have air circulation devices installed, because they are built so tight. These devices circulate and exchange air automatically. Oxygen deprivation is a real issue, and can cause real problems.
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Old fat expat



Joined: 19 Sep 2005
Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie

PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you'll find it has more to do with moisture build-up and pathogens in the form of fungus and such due to stale/condensation filled air.

Also, how things are built in the good ol' US has nothing to do with building codes in Korea (feels so strange to use building codes and Korea in the same sentence).

Best to accept your fate on the ill-founded idea of oxygen deprivation (and the idea of fan death in any iteration).
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old fat expat wrote:
I think you'll find it has more to do with moisture build-up and pathogens in the form of fungus and such due to stale/condensation filled air.

Also, how things are built in the good ol' US has nothing to do with building codes in Korea (feels so strange to use building codes and Korea in the same sentence).

Best to accept your fate on the ill-founded idea of oxygen deprivation (and the idea of fan death in any iteration).


So you say.

I take it your wife doesn't pass gas.
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RangerMcGreggor



Joined: 12 Jan 2011
Location: Somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The two most likely theories I heard was that:

A.) it was a coverup for people committing suicide in their rooms or

B.) The government spread this rumor back in the good ol Dictatorship days to prevent people from using too much energy
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