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Waygeek
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
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 Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:57 am Post subject: Housing regulators? |
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| I have a scumbag worm of a building manager who spent the entire last winter charging occupants for heating and hot water that he never provided. My Hagwon manager really couldn't give a flying one. What would be the best course of action to nailing said scumbag worm for his illicit practices by myself, along with the other occupants? I have a signed letter from a number of the occupants, not sure how to really set things in motion though. People in my building have no control over our heating (we have 'decorative' dials on the walls that do nothing) and we have lost a fair bit of money to this guy. We're pretty sure he's been ripping us off too (monthly bills of W200,000 in Winter). Where can he be reported to? Is there any such thing as a housing regulator especially for waygooks? |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Odd that no one else is making a fuss in the building. If your place is on gas heating, have a Korean speaker explain it to the gas company. If you went to their main office in person, you would most likely be able to ask for an English speaker. Especially if you live in a major city. |
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Seoul Global Center.
http://global.seoul.go.kr/
Call them up or visit them. Show them everything you have and they will call him for you. |
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Waygeek
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| optik404 wrote: |
Seoul Global Center.
http://global.seoul.go.kr/
Call them up or visit them. Show them everything you have and they will call him for you. |
Cheers. |
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giraffe
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this kind of thing is all too common in korea... There was actually a news story on Korea's 60 minutes on tv a few weeks ago... There was LOTs of pissed off people...
sorry.. i dont have any advice but from what i saw on the tv show there didnt seem to be any resolution. Just lots of people screaming and pissed off at the building representative that pays these heating bills. its messed up... |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| giraffe wrote: |
this kind of thing is all too common in korea... There was actually a news story on Korea's 60 minutes on tv a few weeks ago... There was LOTs of pissed off people...
sorry.. i dont have any advice but from what i saw on the tv show there didnt seem to be any resolution. Just lots of people screaming and pissed off at the building representative that pays these heating bills. its messed up... |
What's also common are tenants that are scumbags (they have to live somewhere too, you know). I know of one guy who wouldn't pay his share of the water bill (there was one water meter per floor, so the tenants had to split the bills equally as per stated in the lease). The guy argued for three months with his neighbors while refusing to pay his share because he claimed he should pay less since he lived alone and they didn't. All this drama for a few thousand won. The guy finally shut up and paid up after he was told he would get evicted if he didn't.
I've also seen with my two eyes what happens when tenants allow their kids to act like feral animals (I'm guessing the young kids were often home alone): wall paper ripped down to the gypsum board, holes in every window screen, the laminate ripped off doors, crayon on every wall and ceiling (I don't know how they managed that) and silicone removed (gnawed off?) from around some window panes. The repairs cost the equivalent of two-three months of rent to the landlord. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| giraffe wrote: |
this kind of thing is all too common in korea... There was actually a news story on Korea's 60 minutes on tv a few weeks ago... There was LOTs of pissed off people...
sorry.. i dont have any advice but from what i saw on the tv show there didnt seem to be any resolution. Just lots of people screaming and pissed off at the building representative that pays these heating bills. its messed up... |
What's also common are tenants that are scumbags (they have to live somewhere too, you know). I know of one guy who wouldn't pay his share of the water bill (there was one water meter per floor, so the tenants had to split the bills equally as per stated in the lease). The guy argued for three months with his neighbors while refusing to pay his share because he claimed he should pay less since he lived alone and they didn't. All this drama for a few thousand won. The guy finally shut up and paid up after he was told he would get evicted if he didn't.
I've also seen with my two eyes what happens when tenants allow their kids to act like feral animals (I'm guessing the young kids were often home alone): wall paper ripped down to the gypsum board, holes in every window screen, the laminate ripped off doors, crayon on every wall and ceiling (I don't know how they managed that) and silicone removed (gnawed off?) from around some window panes. The repairs cost the equivalent of two-three months of rent to the landlord. |
Landlord didn't make them pay, sue them, or report them to some rental body? |
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tophatcat
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Location: under the hat
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| giraffe wrote: |
this kind of thing is all too common in korea... There was actually a news story on Korea's 60 minutes on tv a few weeks ago... There was LOTs of pissed off people...
sorry.. i dont have any advice but from what i saw on the tv show there didnt seem to be any resolution. Just lots of people screaming and pissed off at the building representative that pays these heating bills. its messed up... |
What's also common are tenants that are scumbags (they have to live somewhere too, you know). I know of one guy who wouldn't pay his share of the water bill (there was one water meter per floor, so the tenants had to split the bills equally as per stated in the lease). The guy argued for three months with his neighbors while refusing to pay his share because he claimed he should pay less since he lived alone and they didn't. All this drama for a few thousand won. The guy finally shut up and paid up after he was told he would get evicted if he didn't.
I've also seen with my two eyes what happens when tenants allow their kids to act like feral animals (I'm guessing the young kids were often home alone): wall paper ripped down to the gypsum board, holes in every window screen, the laminate ripped off doors, crayon on every wall and ceiling (I don't know how they managed that) and silicone removed (gnawed off?) from around some window panes. The repairs cost the equivalent of two-three months of rent to the landlord. |
Landlord didn't make them pay, sue them, or report them to some rental body? |
It's common for landlords to replace the wallpaper and flooring when new tenants move into a place. Well, this is the case for small villas. If they are lucky, they might get 2-3 years from the gold colored flooring that extends up on the wall 5 centimeters. The wallpaper is a crapshoot. Add a family with kids, usually living in big villas or apartments, and then this is where some of the ridiculous monthly rent comes in. The landlord has to cover the makeover after the little monkeys move out.
Back home, it seemed floor covering and wall covering would last ten years. Many people change the covering due only to being bored from years of looking at the same thing. One of my friends had kids that could destroy anything, terrible unruly kids. But the inside of the home always looked fresh and new.
But I've found that most kids here take the home to be another playground. My wife and I seldom have people over with their kids, but I make sure she informs them of the guidelines of the does and don'ts. Then several times still, my wife has had to scold the kids. It's as though the parents don't care if their kids are using the furniture as a trampoline and the sliding door as the train crash scene from Tom and Jerry. |
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