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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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 Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:23 am Post subject: Taking pictures at beaches could lead to punishment |
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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2013/07/116_139926.html
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An exchange student from China, 22, visited Busan’s Haeundae Beach on July 17.
A sudden thought came to him as he watched Korean girls in bikinis playing in the water. He took out his smartphone and began taking multiple pictures of them.
Those around him looked at him suspiciously and alerted the authorities of what was taking place on the beach. The marine police found him and searched through his phone.
Saved on his phone was over 20 pictures of Korean girls in bikinis. Most of the pictures focused on certain parts of the unsuspecting girls’ bodies.
Accused with sexual harassment, the foreigner claimed, “The Korean girls were so cute and pretty with their make-up that I couldn’t help myself. I didn’t realize taking pictures was a crime.”
Police found his student visa expired last February and took him into custody for staying in the country illegally.
As the weather gets hotter, sex crimes at Haeundae Beach increase as well.
There have already been five suspects apprehended on charges of sex crimes this year at the beach. All of them had been taking pictures of certain parts of bikini-clad Korean girls.
If three to four full-body shots have been taken, there is a possibility of being released without punishment only if the targets of the pictures choose not to press charges and the photos are deleted.
However, if a girl feels she was being violated by focusing the picture on certain parts of her body, the perpetrator will face arrest and punishment. There have been five cases of foreigners taking unauthorized pictures of girls.
One police official stated, “Korean men usually don’t do anything that arouse suspicion, but foreign men have a tendency to satisfy their curiosity and take pictures. If you want to take pictures of a girl, ask her for her admission and even if you get the shot, posting it online is illegal.”
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misher
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| One police official stated, “Korean men usually don’t do anything that arouse suspicion, but foreign men have a tendency to satisfy their curiosity and take pictures. If you want to take pictures of a girl, ask her for her admission and even if you get the shot, posting it online is illegal.” |
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Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:59 am Post subject: Re: Taking pictures at beaches could lead to punishment |
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One police official stated, “Korean men usually don’t do anything that arouse suspicion, but foreign men have a tendency to satisfy their curiosity and take pictures. If you want to take pictures of a girl, ask her for her admission and even if you get the shot, posting it online is illegal.”
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Hahaha, except, the Korean men with telephoto lenses camera snapping pictures of bikini-clad white women. I wonder if they asked their permission before it gets posted online at one of the main Korean news websites under the headline "Foreigner women enjoying Haeundae Beach". |
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Threequalseven
Joined: 08 May 2012
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:06 am Post subject: Re: Taking pictures at beaches could lead to punishment |
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One police official stated, “Korean men usually don’t do anything that arouse suspicion, but foreign men have a tendency to satisfy their curiosity and take pictures. If you want to take pictures of a girl, ask her for her admission and even if you get the shot, posting it online is illegal.”
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Hahaha, except, the Korean men with telephoto lenses camera snapping pictures of bikini-clad white women. I wonder if they asked their permission before it gets posted online at one of the main Korean news websites under the headline "Foreigner women enjoying Haeundae Beach". |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:25 am Post subject: |
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We saw this happen last summer at Haeundae too. A couple of Chinese tourists starting snapping pictures of Korean girls (among other things). No idea if the intention was bad or not but they were warned by the cops.
Same deal at a Kids Cafe in Seoul later during that vacation. This time a Korean father was taking pictures of his kids playing in the play modules and one of the staff kindly asked him not to take pictures of the kids.
This struck us as odd.
Then again, the same thing happened at a public pool in Ontario. A friend of mine wanted to take pictures of his kids playing in the small water park and he was asked not to do so by the staff. I asked her why she asked my friend to stop taking pictures and the answer was both sad and disturbing: pervs snapping pics of kids or younger pre-teens and posting them online...made me want to puke.
Back to Haeundae...those Chinese tourist sure were not alone snapping pics with their phones...tons of Koreans were doing this, some foreigners too. A few got warned by the cops, some did not.
I agree with one thing however: if you wish to take a picture of someone, asking them for permission seems like the polite thing to do.
The rest of what the cop said is BS... |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:29 am Post subject: |
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One police official stated, “Korean men usually don’t do anything that arouse suspicion, but foreign men have a tendency to satisfy their curiosity and take pictures. If you want to take pictures of a girl, ask her for her admission and even if you get the shot, posting it online is illegal.”
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Interesting quote. 'Korean men usually don’t do anything that arouse (sic) suspicion' could mean that Korean men take pictures too but the local women just don't notice them so much because they're not foreigners so they're not naturally suspicious about them. Which says a lot about Korean women.
Or it could mean that foreign men somehow don't 'get' Korean culture since, as opposed to their countries where women cover themselves up all the time, they're suddenty faced with all this naked flesh and can't control themselves. Kind of like the argument that Arab men who molest Western women wearing skimpy clothes shouldn't be blamed because they naturally assume they're prostitutes and are common property. This might work if the foreigners were from places like Indonesia but I assume women wear bikinis in China. And don't go in the sea in t.shirts either.
Or it could just mean that the police assume the locals will behave themselves and the foreigners won't. Which says a lot about the Korean police.
However you look at it, it would have been better if the Korean police had not mentioned 'foreigners' at all and just advised the public in general about acceptable behaviour. |
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optik404
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| I think the law is that you can't take pictures of someone in public without their permission. Funny thing is, go to any baseball game and all you see are dudes recording video of the cheerleaders doing their "cheer/dance" routine. |
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big_fella1
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Korean Police,
The use of cameras on a beach to photograph people that aren't your family or friends is wrong regardless of the race or nationality of the photographer.
Anyone that photographs children on a beach is a pedophile, and if you could possibly focus on this major crime realising that the majority of pedophiles in Korea are actually Korean you may regain some of the respect you lost as the agents of Japanese occupation and dictators.
Thank you with very little anticipation you will do your job.
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Most guys like to check out the honeys, but taking home snapshots to relive your perving sessions is crossing a line. Whatever happened to using your memory and imagination? Have a quick look, store it in the bank for later use and move on. |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Most guys like to check out the honeys, but taking home snapshots to relive your perving sessions is crossing a line. Whatever happened to using your memory and imagination? Have a quick look, store it in the bank for later use and move on. |
Why not ask for a date or invite them to your house/apartment? |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photography_and_the_law
According to the law here you can photograph anyone and anything you want on public property without asking anyone's permission. It does say, however, that certain places have laws about photographs of people 'under a person's clothing'. Maybe a beach would come into this category but a baseball game wouldn't. There is also a section about focusing on a person's private areas, which is what the Chinese guy did. I can understand why he didn't realize he'd broken the law but he must have known what he was doing was morally dubious at least. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| newb wrote: |
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| Most guys like to check out the honeys, but taking home snapshots to relive your perving sessions is crossing a line. Whatever happened to using your memory and imagination? Have a quick look, store it in the bank for later use and move on. |
Why not ask for a date or invite them to your house/apartment? |
If you are young, single and good-looking, then more power to you. The point is that taking photos is a bit much. Wear some dark sunglasses and ogle away if that's your thing but don't whip out the camera FFS. |
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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photography_and_the_law
According to the law here you can photograph anyone and anything you want on public property without asking anyone's permission. It does say, however, that certain places have laws about photographs of people 'under a person's clothing'. Maybe a beach would come into this category but a baseball game wouldn't. There is also a section about focusing on a person's private areas, which is what the Chinese guy did. I can understand why he didn't realize he'd broken the law but he must have known what he was doing was morally dubious at least. |
thats interesting.
There was an incident at my my school a few weeks ago. A students behaviour was so bad, the teacher whipped out his phone and recorded the noise he was making to show his parents.
The kids parents went mental, saying it was illegal and them pulled him out of the school (one of the, was a police). |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| What kind of reaction was that guy expecting? I bet he went for the high-five and was left hanging.. |
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RangerMcGreggor
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
Location: Somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| optik404 wrote: |
| I think the law is that you can't take pictures of someone in public without their permission. Funny thing is, go to any baseball game and all you see are dudes recording video of the cheerleaders doing their "cheer/dance" routine. |
Korea has the standard "in public, you can take whatever photos you want" laws that all countries do. The problem is the issue of harassment, and there isn't a clear line of what is officially harassment. There is a reason why photographers like Eric Kim frequently will talk to people or get their implicit approval when they take street photos.
I should note, if the guy is getting weird looks for his photos and was able to get shots of their bodies with a smart phone, he probably was doing something pretty wrong. |
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