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butimshy



Joined: 31 Aug 2013

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:30 pm    Post subject: Question about breaktime. Reply with quote

Hello friends.

So my director called me in to a meeting Friday saying I can no longer have personal conversations during our prep time at work. I would be fine with this however I considered my prep time to be my break time since we don't have an actual break time. My schedule is like this.

1:00-2:50 prep time (unpaid and mandatory)
2:50-4:10 class
4:20-5:40 class
5:50-7:10 class
7:10-7:30 dinner (still can not leave the building)
7:30-8:15 class
8:15-9:00 prep time (unpaid and mandatory)

the 10 minutes between classes are used to take the kids to the elevators and change our books in the teachers' room.


on friday my director specified that prep time is not break time and I should not be leaving the building or doing anything other than preparing my lessons. we are not allowed to leave the building at any time.

after reviewing the Korean labor law, i believe im entitled to an hour break (instead of 20 fucking minutes) and should be allowed to leave the building on my break if i choose, right?

I just want to know what possible excuses my director can make and how I can challenge them before I bring it up to her. and to be sure I'm understanding everything correctly. thanks. ^^
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jlee83



Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While your director may be a bit overbearing, your schedule is definitely one of the better "hagwon" schedules out there.

Do consider that before you decide to raise a stink and potentially lose your job on the spot and/or not get renewed.
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

20 minutes for dinner/supper? Ask him if he's also planning on paying you 15000 won per month like they pay those who are stuck doing their military service here. Wink
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh don't you love that old micro-management. This is only the beginning. Get yourself a parachute. Smile
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ewlandon



Joined: 30 Jan 2011
Location: teacher

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jlee83 wrote:
While your director may be a bit overbearing, your schedule is definitely one of the better "hagwon" schedules out there.

Do consider that before you decide to raise a stink and potentially lose your job on the spot and/or not get renewed.



Wow i had quite the opposite reaction. I would quit.

My hagwon schedule is like this

2-4 (prep time) I can come and go as i please as long as I get my work done and I am here for class

4-445 class
450-535 class

540-725 break time

730-815 class

820-905 class

905-9:30 (prep time)
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nicwr2002



Joined: 17 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are not a prisoner at work and shouldn't accept these conditions.
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IPayInCash



Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats considered a GOOD schedule for a hagwon? Wow.... makes me love my job even more working a fraction of that Laughing
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J Rock



Joined: 17 Jan 2009
Location: The center of the Earth, Suji

PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What exactly does he mean you can have no personal conversations during your work time? Like you're not allowed to speak to anyone other than job related? That's strange, there has to be something more, like were you on the phone everyday for an hour straight talking to your BF/GF?

I don't think any rational person would just come out and say you can't talk during your prep time. I would imagine this came about for a reason.

Me personally I got talked to from my first Hagwon a couple months into it when I would show up for my prep time at 2pm then run out to get something to eat at 2:06pm and not come back to until right before my first class. My director talked to me about it and explained I needed to be here for my prep time. I agreed and stopped skipping out on my prep time duties.

Point is I brought that on myself and I was called on it. Can you think of any reason at all why your director would say you cannot talk to anyone?
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

J Rock wrote:
What exactly does he mean you can have no personal conversations during your work time? Like you're not allowed to speak to anyone other than job related?


There's one way to get around it. Here's the icebreaker, "The boss really sucks, eh?"


Last edited by 12ax7 on Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:09 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Waygeek



Joined: 27 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard that ten minute breaks between classes is required by law, is this true?
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waygeek wrote:
I heard that ten minute breaks between classes is required by law, is this true?


No.

The labor rule is that if you work 4 hours or more you are to be allowed a minimum 30 minute break - unpaid. If you work 8 hours or more you are entitled to 60 minutes.

There is no requirement for breaks between classes. Who would teach or even watch the students in schools during all these breaks? It would be chaos.
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Waygeek



Joined: 27 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the clarification. Interesting, I've worked five or more hours through without a break, as have all my coworkers.
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augustine



Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waygeek wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. Interesting, I've worked five or more hours through without a break, as have all my coworkers.


So I guess you didn't find an after school job?
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waygeek wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. Interesting, I've worked five or more hours through without a break, as have all my coworkers.



The required break can be at the beginning or end of your working hours as well as in the middle, so if they give you a 30 minute break after working five hours that still meets the requirement.
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Waygeek



Joined: 27 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

augustine wrote:
Waygeek wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. Interesting, I've worked five or more hours through without a break, as have all my coworkers.


So I guess you didn't find an after school job?


Explain to me the relevance between your post to what you quoted.
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