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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:01 pm    Post subject: Your experiences with acupuncture & herbal meds Reply with quote

I was once skeptical of Chinese herbal medicine but have been a fan for quite a number of years now. I had bad allergies and a severe case of the flu years ago, and hanyak (한약) saved me.

I hear that you shouldn't take it for more than year to prevent liver damage. Also, you should be careful WHERE you get treatment. I went to Jaseng and they ripped me off majorly, DO NOT GO THERE! Going to the wrong clinic could mean getting medicine with tainted ingredients from China. I go to clinics that have been recommended to me by friends.

Thank you for your input.
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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sprained my ankle pretty badly in march. It improved a little after a month. Then it kind of got stuck in the healing process.

In class we were talking about alternative therapies one day and my student mentioned he's treated a sprained ankle with acupuncture.

I found a clinic called where they spoke English. In my first treatment he checke my entire body for reasons as to why I wasn't healing. He'd quoted a price of 10 000 won on the phone but when I got there he found I'd had a few minor issues that needed looking at. I received three different treatments for the same price.

I went four times and an mostly pain free except days like today when I'm really tired. Then I hurt a bit.

Incidentally, this doctor does something called striking the bones ( I think 골다 in Korean?) and he did this for me once. I'd had a lingering cough from a cold three months prior. Next day my cough disappeared never to return.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science_of_longevity/2013/09/tim_minchin_s_storm_critique_of_alternative_medicine_and_defense_of_reason.html
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried acupuncture for my psoriasis (a skin condition similar to eczema) from four different doctors: a Chinese one in Canada, a caucasian Canadian in Canada, a Buddhist monk in a temple who was also a Korean medicine doctor in Korea, and a Korean medicine doctor at a clinic in Korea. None of them worked. At all.
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J Rock



Joined: 17 Jan 2009
Location: The center of the Earth, Suji

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried acupuncture one time for stomach problems and I don't think it worked. It probably had something to do me not actually having any pain at all I just wanted to call in sick and said I had pain in my stomach.

Before I knew it, my director was knocking at my door and dragging me to a doctor's office. The first doctor I went to said it could be appendicitis and thats when we went over to the the acupuncture doctor. He did his thing, and one hour later I was cured!

No more stomach pain, and no more talk of surgery!
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beentheredonethat777



Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: AsiaHaven

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: Your experiences with acupuncture & herbal meds Reply with quote

I have never used acupuncture but my sister did. She called me recently to share her story

She was born with a severely bowed leg and it caused her a lot of physical pain for most of her life.
About a year ago, her doctor suggested traditional medicine.
She was, of course, skeptical, but used it as a last resort.
After her first treatment, she could walk on her leg without being in agony.
Her third treatment kept her pain managed for almost seven months. She swear by it!
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Your experiences with acupuncture & herbal meds Reply with quote

beentheredonethat777 wrote:
I have never used acupuncture but my sister did. She called me recently to share her story

She was born with a severely bowed leg and it caused her a lot of physical pain for most of her life.
About a year ago, her doctor suggested traditional medicine.
She was, of course, skeptical, but used it as a last resort.
After her first treatment, she could walk on her leg without being in agony.
Her third treatment kept her pain managed for almost seven months. She swear by it!


I've heard similar stories of people for whom Western medicine did not help their conditions, but of course, more evidence is needed.

That said, I go to the hanuisa once or two a year, thought the cost of the medicine can sting.
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Nester Noodlemon



Joined: 16 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Herbel medicines are great.

I remember having a bad stomachache due to gas pains one evening long ago when visiting my granny . She conjured up the perfect natural remedy. First, she pulled and old cotton flour sack out of the cabinet. Then, she chopped up a small onion and put in the sack. Next, she threw in a couple of pieces of garlic and a pinch of cloves. The she added two chicken leg bones. After that, she tied up the top of the sack with some grass string. Finally, she had me eat four bananas, drink two cups of hot black coffee, and gave me close instructions on what to do.

She said:
"Sonny boy, you see that big field yonder. Now, you run straight to the middle of that field bout 500 yards or so. When Farmer Jenkin's big red bull comes runnin at you, you commence shaking dat sack and hollerin as loud as ye can. Then you run around in a couple of big circles and head back here to the house. I did it. It worked. I was passing gas, breaking wind, and everything that was stopped up was coming out.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had acupuncture when I had a dislocated finger. I've seen trainers pull fingers on football players and that's the only time I ever saw them scream. Me, two needles on back of my hand, finger put back in place, didn't feel a thing. Surprised
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried acupuncture for my back (herniated disk), and it didn't do jack. A good chiropractor, and stretching and foam rolling at home - that has helped wonders.


"Chinese" medicines... tried them both in Korean and China. Both made me want to puke, and gave my stomach so much distress, that I didn't feel any good effects from it.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only experience ive had w acupuncture was when i had bppv(vertigo). that was an AWFUL month of recovery. i was in the hospital for about 2 wks, and at home for another 2. i was at 1st on western meds and then went to the oriental stuff. of course the oriental dr also gave a month's worth of expensive hanyak - while taking it i wasnt supposed to eat any chicken or pork. think it was time, not either of the meds prescribed, that helped most. as to the acupuncture, my symptoms did NOT improve during or shortly after treatment. i just remember rubbing my skull w a couple of fingers and looking at the coating of blood on the fingers shortly after the treatment. /shudder

sorry, forgot to include the 3-4 other times ive taken oriental meds. twice i took some powders and pills of some sort for severe heartburn back when i smoked. maybe they worked, not sure though. another time i took some for a headache as i had sworn off of tylenol, aspirin, and the rest. again, i think the coffee i had that day proved more beneficial. ive also been given the marriage three month packs of hongsam. i was already shooting lethal bullets, so that was no help. Wink my wife over the yrs has also made me all kinds of different concoctions which included those fancy mushrooms, ginger, licorice, and hongsam that she made herself from insam as well as some russian cosmonaut juice. not sure if any of it really helped much. honestly, they say ur supposed to b on some of the crap for up to 6 months in order for u to notice a difference. most times, i only went up to 4 months. think most of it cant b too bad for u, but some of it ends up being really expensive, and i think that ur better off just eating healthy food, being positive, and exercising fairly regularly.


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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: Your experiences with acupuncture & herbal meds Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:


I hear that you shouldn't take it for more than year to prevent liver damage. Also, you should be careful WHERE you get treatment. I went to Jaseng and they ripped me off majorly, DO NOT GO THERE! Going to the wrong clinic could mean getting medicine with tainted ingredients from China. I go to clinics that have been recommended to me by friends.


So, you're saying that besides the fact it's unhealthy, dangerous, and you might get ripped off, it's helped you take care of your allergies? Sorry, but I'll stick with my 2500 won boxes of antihistamines.


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12ax7



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scorpiocandy wrote:
I sprained my ankle pretty badly in march. It improved a little after a month. Then it kind of got stuck in the healing process.

In class we were talking about alternative therapies one day and my student mentioned he's treated a sprained ankle with acupuncture.

I found a clinic called where they spoke English. In my first treatment he checke my entire body for reasons as to why I wasn't healing. He'd quoted a price of 10 000 won on the phone but when I got there he found I'd had a few minor issues that needed looking at. I received three different treatments for the same price.

I went four times and an mostly pain free except days like today when I'm really tired. Then I hurt a bit.

Incidentally, this doctor does something called striking the bones ( I think 골다 in Korean?) and he did this for me once. I'd had a lingering cough from a cold three months prior. Next day my cough disappeared never to return.


You're aware that it takes about a month for a sprained ankle to heal itself, right?

PS. I got acupuncture about an hour after spraining my ankle and it didn't do jack for the pain or the swelling.
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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

12ax7 wrote:
scorpiocandy wrote:
I sprained my ankle pretty badly in march. It improved a little after a month. Then it kind of got stuck in the healing process.

In class we were talking about alternative therapies one day and my student mentioned he's treated a sprained ankle with acupuncture.

I found a clinic called where they spoke English. In my first treatment he checke my entire body for reasons as to why I wasn't healing. He'd quoted a price of 10 000 won on the phone but when I got there he found I'd had a few minor issues that needed looking at. I received three different treatments for the same price.

I went four times and an mostly pain free except days like today when I'm really tired. Then I hurt a bit.

Incidentally, this doctor does something called striking the bones ( I think 골다 in Korean?) and he did this for me once. I'd had a lingering cough from a cold three months prior. Next day my cough disappeared never to return.


You're aware that it takes about a month for a sprained ankle to heal itself, right?

PS. I got acupuncture about an hour after spraining my ankle and it didn't do jack for the pain or the swelling.


Yes. I didn't say I expected to be healed after a month. I said it improved a bit and then I didn't notice any further improvement. My pain level was pretty much the same for two months until I went to see the acupuncturist.

No need to try and discount my experience. I went to two hospitals. The first sucked. The second is where I usually go and while I'm more than satisfied with my doctor, this time alternative medicine helped me.
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scorpiocandy wrote:
12ax7 wrote:
scorpiocandy wrote:
I sprained my ankle pretty badly in march. It improved a little after a month. Then it kind of got stuck in the healing process.

In class we were talking about alternative therapies one day and my student mentioned he's treated a sprained ankle with acupuncture.

I found a clinic called where they spoke English. In my first treatment he checke my entire body for reasons as to why I wasn't healing. He'd quoted a price of 10 000 won on the phone but when I got there he found I'd had a few minor issues that needed looking at. I received three different treatments for the same price.

I went four times and an mostly pain free except days like today when I'm really tired. Then I hurt a bit.

Incidentally, this doctor does something called striking the bones ( I think 골다 in Korean?) and he did this for me once. I'd had a lingering cough from a cold three months prior. Next day my cough disappeared never to return.


You're aware that it takes about a month for a sprained ankle to heal itself, right?

PS. I got acupuncture about an hour after spraining my ankle and it didn't do jack for the pain or the swelling.


Yes. I didn't say I expected to be healed after a month. I said it improved a bit and then I didn't notice any further improvement. My pain level was pretty much the same for two months until I went to see the acupuncturist.

No need to try and discount my experience. I went to two hospitals. The first sucked. The second is where I usually go and while I'm more than satisfied with my doctor, this time alternative medicine helped me.


Not discounting your experience. I'm well aware that placebos work sometimes.
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