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Waygeek
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
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 Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:33 am Post subject: Another CRC, despite not going back to home country since? |
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Started a new job a while back. They supposedly get a call from Immigration today asking for a new Criminal Background Check because I have left Korea since being here (once, to Japan). I tell them I haven't been back home since leaving for S.K.
Is this legit or am I just being trolled by my director who wants to see a CRC for himself? If I've not been back in my home country since, what the hell is the point in getting another CRC...
Also; random unrelated question. I assume if a person wants to get a branch of a big franchise chain hagwon, they have to put down some kind of deposit. Anybody got an (educated) idea of how much that is? |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:54 am Post subject: |
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How long did you leave for? Can we get some rough dates. If you were gone for more then 90 days then immigration can ask for a new CRC.
Also, stop expecting logic. Even if you have not had the chance to go back home to commit a crime, immigration at times will demand a new CRC. |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| If it was for a weekend, seems silly. If it was several months, how do they know you didn't go home yet? You could have gone to Japan and gotten a flight home from there. They don't have access to your home country's records of who has visited there. |
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cabeza
Joined: 29 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:00 am Post subject: |
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You have to get a new CBC regardless of whether you have left the country or not, is my understanding. Maybe I'm wrong?? But I don't think I am..
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| what the hell is the point in getting another CRC... |
How long have you been here? What the hell is the point of half the crap we have to do? Why the hell do the immigration people at Incheon take a new set of finger prints everytime I come back into the country as if I may have gone through some kind of radical identity fraud and obtained new prints so as to get on the lucrative Korean gravy train. You just do it becuae asking questions will make your brain explode. |
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Waygeek
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Was only in Japan for a week, summer vacation.
So if someone goes to Thailand, say, for winter vacation. They come back, and soon after their contract ends so they change jobs. A new CRC is needed?
Something weird about that, even by Korean standards... |
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Waygeek
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Anyone?
Also does anyone know if deposits are required to get yourself a chain hagwon branch? If so, how much? |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:40 am Post subject: |
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From immigration's perspective, it's easier to just ask everyone to get a new one, I guess. Governments love red tape.
If you're not sure if a new CRC is needed, call (or better yet, for the sake of reliable answers) go into immigration and ask.
I don't understand this question:
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| Also does anyone know if deposits are required to get yourself a chain hagwon branch? If so, how much? |
Do you mean you want to open a branch of a chain hagwon and want to know if you need a deposit to open the business? |
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Katchafire
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Location: Non curo. Si metrum non habet, non est poema
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| Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I recently started a new contract. I've not been out of the country since 2008. I didn't need a CBC/CRC from my home country, but was asked by the Education department for a Korean check. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Also does anyone know if deposits are required to get yourself a chain hagwon branch? If so, how much? |
I would humbly say, that if you are not able to find out this information on your own, you may well struggle to run a hagwon!  |
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El Bandito
Joined: 07 Oct 2013
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| Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:10 am Post subject: |
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It seems that everyone's situation is different, regardless of the same rules. I have always understood that unless you leave the country, regardless of where you went, for more than 3 months, you need a new CBC for immigration.
As of this year, for the Ministry of Education, you need a new CBC from your country, regardless of how long it was.
In my situation, had I not traveled, I could have shown the MOE a form from immigration showing my dates of travel (not locations, oddly enough) and had I not traveled since 2010 (the year of getting my CBC) it would have been find, but I had gone to Japan three times (overnight all three times) so they needed a new FBI CBC. Regardless of the fact that if I committed a crime in another country, I would probably still be there. |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| Waygeek wrote: |
Anyone?
Also does anyone know if deposits are required to get yourself a chain hagwon branch? If so, how much? |
You are dreaming boy.  |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| .... I could have shown the MOE a form from immigration showing my dates of travel (not locations, oddly enough) and had I not traveled since 2010 (the year of getting my CBC) it would have been find, but I had gone to Japan three times (overnight all three times) so they needed a new FBI CBC..... [/u] |
No! Stop that! That is both logical and illogical. You are dealing with bureaucracy, who love little rules and regulations. Who at times does not care what can be proven it depends on what they want.
Plus the new rules with MOE took a whole bunch of ironing out. Will copies do? Or will it be originals? Before that it was the whole kerfluffle with state checks versus FBI check. |
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Nester Noodlemon
Joined: 16 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| Waygeek wrote: |
Anyone?
Also does anyone know if deposits are required to get yourself a chain hagwon branch? If so, how much? |
Yes, if you want a prime name like WONDERLAND. How much? Mmmmm, how much do you have? |
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safiresteele
Joined: 07 Jan 2006
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Hello  A little off topic.....I know the CRC is only good for 6-months, but is it 6-months from the search completed date or issue date? Thank you |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| El Bandito wrote: |
It seems that everyone's situation is different, regardless of the same rules. I have always understood that unless you leave the country, regardless of where you went, for more than 3 months, you need a new CBC for immigration.
As of this year, for the Ministry of Education, you need a new CBC from your country, regardless of how long it was.
In my situation, had I not traveled, I could have shown the MOE a form from immigration showing my dates of travel (not locations, oddly enough) and had I not traveled since 2010 (the year of getting my CBC) it would have been find, but I had gone to Japan three times (overnight all three times) so they needed a new FBI CBC. Regardless of the fact that if I committed a crime in another country, I would probably still be there. |
Infuriatingly illogical. |
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