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trueblue
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 Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:51 pm Post subject: The UK and the EU |
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Not too many folks seem concerned with this...I don't know why that is. It would be a shame, to see England fall to immigrant culture, a muslim mayor in London and then to have the EU have direct power over it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/26/plans-to-create-an-eu-army-kept-secret-from-voters/
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Ben Riley-Smith, political correspondent
27 MAY 2016 • 12:33AM
British voters are being “conned” by Brussels officials who are keeping plans for a European army secret until after the referendum, leading Tories have claimed.
Liam Fox, the former defence secretary who served under David Cameron, told The Telegraph that the ambitions showed the EU is wedded to the “dangerous fantasy” of creating a single defence force.
Another eurosceptic Tory MP said voters were being “deceived” and “hoodwinked” about the true scale of the EU’s drive to create a single army.
The backlash came as it emerged plans to move towards the creation of a European army are being kept secret from British voters until the day after next month’s referendum.
Drawn up by the EU’s foreign policy chief, the Global Strategy on Foreign and Security Policy foresees the formation of new European military and operational structures.
This first step towards an EU army is supported by Germany and other countries, The Times reports.
In 2011, similar proposals were vetoed by Britain, although there were concerns that a loophole could allow nine states to group together to bypass opponents.
In an effort to avoid derailing the Prime Minister’s Remain campaign, the policy plans will not be sent to national governments until the day after Britons vote.
Until then, only a small group of EU political and security committee ambassadors, who must leave their electronic devices outside a sealed room, can read the proposal.
However hand written notes can be taken.
Extracts of the text in notes taken by dipomats, seen by The Times, emphasise that “security and defence is where a step change is most urgent”.
The paper warns that “in turbulent times, we need a compass to navigate the waters of a faster-changing world”.
The news comes as figures show a record number of immigrants arrived in Britain last year for work, and net migration reached 333,0000.
Head of foreign policy in the EU, Federica Mogherini, has reportedly spent 18 months preparing the defence document to be discussed by European leaders at a summit on June 28.
Mr Fox told The Telegraph: “Those of us who have always warned about Europe’s defence ambitions have always been told not to worry, but step-by-step that ever closer union is becoming a reality. We cannot afford to be conned in this referendum as we were conned in 1975.
“The best way to protect ourselves is to stay close to the US. The US defence budget is bigger than the next 11 countries in the world put together. Europe’s defence intentions are a dangerous fantasy and risk cutting us off from our closest and most powerful ally.
“We’re always told not to worry about the next integration and then it happens. We’ve been too often conned before and we must not be conned again.”
Andrew Bridgen, the Tory MP for North West Leicestershire, said: “This is the way the EU operates. The people were deceived about the aims of the EU in 1975 and they’re being deceived again today. For the security of our country we must vote to leave the EU.
“This blows out of the water the Prime Minister’s claim that we’re being excluded from ever closer union. Voters are being hoodwinked once again.” |
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Coltronator
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| Who cares. It is a legit debate and also legit to wait to see if it is even worth doing until after the disintegration of the EU starts. If the United States of America can have a unified army why not the United States of Europe? |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| Who cares. It is a legit debate and also legit to wait to see if it is even worth doing until after the disintegration of the EU starts. If the United States of America can have a unified army why not the United States of Europe? |
You just answered yourself, while at the same time, completely going off topic. |
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Swartz
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 7:10 am Post subject: |
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Most people are ignorant to what the EU actually is. Let me repeat, just as with the Soviet Union, these international unions and institutions are Jewish constructions meant to take power away from the nations themselves so that they can be more easily controlled and manipulated by this foreign global elite.
From Wikipedia:
“An official website makes a reference to blue and gold being the original colours of Count Richard Nikolaus von Coudenhove-Kalergi, who proposed a Pan European Union in 1923, and was an active proponent of the early Community.”
Now, here's a quote from Coudenhove-Kalergi, the idividual behind the “Kalergi Plan” (look it up):
“The man of the future will be a mongrel. Today's races and classes will disappear owing to the disappearing of space, time, and prejudice … The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its outward appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals … [Jews will rule over the continent as] Europe's spiritual leader race … a race of nobility.”
Sounds wonderful, and exactly like they're trying to implement now. There's even an award named after Coudenhove-Kalergi, which Merkel received in 2010. The EU flag was designed by a guy named (((Levy))) and while we're supposed to believe that the number of stars (twelve) is some arbitrary number that “was eventually adopted as a number with no political connotations,” it actually represents the twelve tribes of Israel, because that is who was supposed to be, and is, ruling over it.
Also, most European nations already have legal restrictions on speech, which they've taken away under these bs “hate speech” directives. Well, the EU is about to be in charge of determining what qualifies as “hate speech” across the entire continent.
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-1873_en.htm
The EU is an authoritarian organization ruled by unelected bureaucrats and this rootless foreign elite, and it is destroying the nations of Europe and stripping them of their autonomy. It can't be ended soon enough, though be assured they'll attempt to erect something else in its place.
The Brexit vote is very important and these people have a lot riding on it, which is why there's a good chance it will be rigged. Still, there's a glimmer of hope that this could begin the dissolution necessary to restore Europe.
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| Who cares ... If the United States of America can have a unified army why not the United States of Europe? |
Europeans should care, since the EU will fill that army with Africans and Muslimes who will eventually be ordered to turn on the natives by the EU's Bolshevik leadership. |
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Oldtimer
Joined: 17 Mar 2016
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I shall be voting leave. |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Most people are ignorant to what the EU actually is. Let me repeat, just as with the Soviet Union, these international unions and institutions are Jewish constructions meant to take power away from the nations themselves so that they can be more easily controlled and manipulated by this foreign global elite.
From Wikipedia:
“An official website makes a reference to blue and gold being the original colours of Count Richard Nikolaus von Coudenhove-Kalergi, who proposed a Pan European Union in 1923, and was an active proponent of the early Community.”
Now, here's a quote from Coudenhove-Kalergi, the idividual behind the “Kalergi Plan” (look it up):
“The man of the future will be a mongrel. Today's races and classes will disappear owing to the disappearing of space, time, and prejudice … The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its outward appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals … [Jews will rule over the continent as] Europe's spiritual leader race … a race of nobility.”
Sounds wonderful, and exactly like they're trying to implement now. There's even an award named after Coudenhove-Kalergi, which Merkel received in 2010. The EU flag was designed by a guy named (((Levy))) and while we're supposed to believe that the number of stars (twelve) is some arbitrary number that “was eventually adopted as a number with no political connotations,” it actually represents the twelve tribes of Israel, because that is who was supposed to be, and is, ruling over it.
Also, most European nations already have legal restrictions on speech, which they've taken away under these bs “hate speech” directives. Well, the EU is about to be in charge of determining what qualifies as “hate speech” across the entire continent.
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-1873_en.htm
The EU is an authoritarian organization ruled by unelected bureaucrats and this rootless foreign elite, and it is destroying the nations of Europe and stripping them of their autonomy. It can't be ended soon enough, though be assured they'll attempt to erect something else in its place.
The Brexit vote is very important and these people have a lot riding on it, which is why there's a good chance it will be rigged. Still, there's a glimmer of hope that this could begin the dissolution necessary to restore Europe.
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| Who cares ... If the United States of America can have a unified army why not the United States of Europe? |
Europeans should care, since the EU will fill that army with Africans and Muslimes who will eventually be ordered to turn on the natives by the EU's Bolshevik leadership. |
Wow...tons of information there.
Indeed, the EU flag seemed as if by design, nobody cared why or how.
With the systematic breakdown of the U.S. military (except for Marines, as of yet) and its warrior mentality, EU citizens should be very concerned, along with Americans. |
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trueblue
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Does any of this sound familiar?
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THE KALERGI PLAN
In his book Praktischer Idealismus (Practical Idealism), Kalergi declared that the people of the future “United States of Europe” will not be the original peoples of the Old Continent, but a kind of bestial subhumans made by miscegenation. Kalergi stated in no uncertain terms that you must cross the peoples of Europe with Asian races and color, to create a multiethnic flock without quality and easily controllable by the ruling.
“The man of the future will be of mixed blood. The future Eurasian-Negroid race, very similar to the ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples, with a variety of personalities.”
Austrian writer Gerd Honsik describes the essence of the Kalergi plan:
Kalergi proclaims the abolition of the right of self-determination and, subsequently, the elimination of nations by means of ethnic separatist movements or mass allogeneic (genetically dissimilar) immigration. In order for Europe to be mastered by the elite, homogeneous peoples are transformed into a mixed race of whites, blacks and Asians. Kalergi characterized these mestizos as cruel and unfaithful, and maintained that the elite must deliberately create the mestizos to achieve their own superiority.
The elite will first eliminate democracy — the rule of the people. Next, the elite will eliminate the people via miscegenation, thereby replacing the white race with an easily controllable mestizo race. By abolishing the principle of equality of all before the law, avoiding and punishing any criticism of minorities, and protecting the minorities with special laws, the masses are suppressed.
In his time, politicians hearkened to Kalergi — banks and the press were based on his ideas, while U.S. intelligence financed his projects. Europe’s political leaders know that Kalergi was the author of the European Union. Though unknown to the public and untaught in schools, Kalergi is the father of Maastricht and multiculturalism, which indoctrinate Europeans to tolerate and accept subhuman migrants. |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder what will happen if the UK government ignores the referendum, should it conclude to leave the EU? |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Most people are ignorant to what the EU actually is. Let me repeat, just as with the Soviet Union, these international unions and institutions are Jewish constructions meant to take power away from the nations themselves so that they can be more easily controlled and manipulated by this foreign global elite.
From Wikipedia:
“An official website makes a reference to blue and gold being the original colours of Count Richard Nikolaus von Coudenhove-Kalergi, who proposed a Pan European Union in 1923, and was an active proponent of the early Community.”
Now, here's a quote from Coudenhove-Kalergi, the idividual behind the “Kalergi Plan” (look it up):
“The man of the future will be a mongrel. Today's races and classes will disappear owing to the disappearing of space, time, and prejudice … The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its outward appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals … [Jews will rule over the continent as] Europe's spiritual leader race … a race of nobility.”
Sounds wonderful, and exactly like they're trying to implement now. There's even an award named after Coudenhove-Kalergi, which Merkel received in 2010. The EU flag was designed by a guy named (((Levy))) and while we're supposed to believe that the number of stars (twelve) is some arbitrary number that “was eventually adopted as a number with no political connotations,” it actually represents the twelve tribes of Israel, because that is who was supposed to be, and is, ruling over it.
Also, most European nations already have legal restrictions on speech, which they've taken away under these bs “hate speech” directives. Well, the EU is about to be in charge of determining what qualifies as “hate speech” across the entire continent.
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-1873_en.htm
The EU is an authoritarian organization ruled by unelected bureaucrats and this rootless foreign elite, and it is destroying the nations of Europe and stripping them of their autonomy. It can't be ended soon enough, though be assured they'll attempt to erect something else in its place.
The Brexit vote is very important and these people have a lot riding on it, which is why there's a good chance it will be rigged. Still, there's a glimmer of hope that this could begin the dissolution necessary to restore Europe.
| Coltronator wrote: |
| Who cares ... If the United States of America can have a unified army why not the United States of Europe? |
Europeans should care, since the EU will fill that army with Africans and Muslimes who will eventually be ordered to turn on the natives by the EU's Bolshevik leadership. |
This was a taken from Facebook...makes one thing eh?
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The message from Sir Oswald Mosley regarding Jews was straightforward. They opposed those Jews who put Jewish interests ahead of British interests. They opposed the Jewish interests prominent in International finance that used Britain for its own agenda. They opposed those Jews who identified as Communists and who attacked their meetings. They were against those Jews who were determined to drag Britain into a war with Germany not in the British interest, but in the Jewish interest. They opposed Jews for their behaviour not because they were Jews.
It is much the same today, it is the undeniable predominance of Jewish interests being at the core of everything detrimental to Europe and to Western civilisation that leads people to oppose them. This centuries old conflict exists for a reason, not because Gentiles are inherently 'anti-semitic' as they would have us believe. The Jews are not blameless. The conflict arises out of a conflict of interests and a persistent and familiar pattern of infiltration and subversion being used against European societies.
The conflicts of interest are many, a few examples would be the Israel issue and multiculturalism. Jews want Western nations to prop up Israel and to support everything they do, they also put the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of whatever nation they are in. Another example would be multiculturalism, they support it because they feel safer in multiracial, multicultural societies and they support it because they have an historic animosity and revengeful attitude against white Christian Europe and the West due to centuries of conflict in which they want you to believe that they were the victims of Christian 'anti-semitism' just because they were Jews. They would never accept or consider Jewish behaviour as a motivating factor.
When they pursue their own interests as Jews and work against our interests as Europeans to achieve those Jewish goals, then conflict and hostility will manifest itself. In the mind of Mosley it wasn't their Jewish identity that was the issue, it was their behaviour. |
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trueblue
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 3:26 am Post subject: |
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This makes sense...
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Oldtimer wrote:
If the UK votes to remain in the EU on June 23rd, I'm emigrating. 5,000 ISIS in Europe, thanks to the mad sauerkraut sucker? I'm off, for reasons of basic safety. |
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| This defeatist attitude is a large reason why the long term outlook appears so dire in the UK. I don't know how much of an old timer you actually are, but you shouldn't abandon your homeland to the invaders just yet. Enough have already, it only makes the situation worse. You should up your skills and fight back, sire some children and train them to be strong and proud of their heritage so they can defend your nation's legacy and help de-Kuros the cucks when the time comes. I know things are pretty bad there, but running away and making excuses for why you didn't stand up is not a solution, bruv. |
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Swartz
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| trueblue wrote: |
| Does any of this sound familiar? |
Yep. This is why I tell liberals who use inverted and deflective Jewish terms like “conspiracy theory” that being unaware of this stuff is their own fault. It can be difficult to wrap your head around it, but the facts and plans aren't hiding from anybody, and the secondary analysis of it is greater than ever. But the liberal believes what his masters tell him, he can't fathom that this group could be as malicious as purported, creating multi-generational plans to wreck other people's nations through sanctioned invasions and destroying their genetic lineage through propaganda and by force. But they really are that sick. They're even worse than that, actually. There's plenty of stuff that I don't even bring up here.
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| They would never accept or consider Jewish behaviour as a motivating factor. |
The Culture of Critique has important parts that deal with Jewish self-deception and how they, quite literally, think anti-semitism is a psychiatric disorder. There's no self-awareness, no internal reflection upon their own behavior, because they don't share our European conscience. They aren't like us. They are a desert tribe closely related to Arabs, and everyone has seen how those savages are capable of behaving. These two groups are brothers, children and humanity's worst, who have escaped from their sandbox and are reaping havoc across the world. Their fundamental nature is destruction. And there's a reason why the West has been slipping into madness, with diminishing freedom and a mirror version of communism as their control has grown, because essentially these people immediately attempt to enslave and eradicate others when they are given the authority to rule.
Anyway, here's the most important excerpt from Coudenhove-Kalergi:
"At the beginning of 1924, we received a call from Baron Louis de Rothschild; one of his friends, Max Warburg from Hamburg, had read my book and wanted to get to know us.
To my great surprise, Warburg spontaneously offered us 60,000 gold marks, to tide the movement over for its first three years ....
Max Warburg, who was one of the most distinguished and wisest men that I have ever come into contact with, had a principle of financing these movements.
He remained sincerely interested in Pan-Europe for his entire life.
Max Warburg arranged his 1925 trip to the United States to introduce me to Paul Warburg and financier Bernard Baruch."
http://balder.org/judea/Richard-Coudenhove-Kalergi-Practical-Idealism-Vienna-1925.php
Rothschild and Warburg. When you control the money and determine how it gets dispersed, you can control everything.
The only way to combat this influence is through nationalism, and the Brexit is a form of nationalism. Britain is ridiculously cucked and the Anglos have been spiritually sucked dry and depleted of their best men for hundreds of years while Jewish moneylenders turned the City of London into their globalist temple, but you never know what could happen. Maybe they'll uncuck themselves through a Prince Harry coup as London implodes. This is another reason why Trump is so important. He will lift America's imperial foot off of these European vassal states and allow them to safely transition away from globalism and towards nationalism. |
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trueblue
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| Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Should these narratives be true...the ripples go as wide as one could imagine.
So many events and narratives linked to, this Jewish issue. I'm not saying I completely buy into it, but, I am not saying I am shunning my eyes from it (especially out fear of being called a "bigot"...  )
I suppose it would be easier, to find a sort of "connect the dots" map.
Who was in charge during a certain period of time, in certain places.
What were the main issues, and who sparked them, and why?
What was been and what was the fallout of said issues?
..and so forth...
...including the Kennedy assassination(s)
I will say one thing, because of the Jewish influence on the Supreme Court, that is why the U.S. no longer has prayer in school... |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Not a UK citizen, but I 100% support Leave. The EU is a corrupt cesspool that makes the UN look well-run in comparison. At least the UN is essentially ineffective, not necessarily nefarious. Plus one can at least somewhat comprehend how the UN works.
The EU's system of government is so complex, it reminds me of Communist states like China with their various assemblies, committees, commissions, and seemingly endless semi-heads of state. |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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The people of Europe are voicing their opposition to the immigration invasion, so the EU moves to SHUT IT DOWN
Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Microsoft back EU hate speech rules
EU governments have been trying in recent months to get social platforms to crack down on rising online racism following the refugee crisis and terror attacks, with some even threatening action against the companies.
As part of the pledge agreed with the European Commission, the web giants will review the majority of valid requests for removal of illegal hate speech in less than 24 hours and remove or disable access to the content if necessary.
They will also strengthen their cooperation with civil society organizations who help flag hateful content when it goes online and promote "counter-narratives" to hate speech.
Jewish lobbyists, frequently the target of hate speech, welcomed the code of conduct.
"This a historic agreement that could not arrive at a better time,” said Dr. Moshe Kantor, President of the European Jewish Congress.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-facebook-twitter-hatecrime-idUSKCN0YM0VJ
Between this and EU President Jean Claude-Junker's comments that "there will be no debate with the far right," they are pretty much ensuring that Europe will descend into violence. |
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chellovek
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| Ahhh so it was the Jews wot done it. |
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