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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:16 pm Post subject: Right-wing coalition, but not VW, opposes VW Union |
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Volkswagen Isn’t Fighting Unionization—Right-Wing Groups Are
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After Volkswagen issued a letter in September saying the company would not oppose an attempt by the United Auto Workers (UAW) to unionize its 1,600-worker Chattanooga, Tenn., facility, Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) was flabbergasted.
"For management to invite the UAW in is almost beyond belief," Corker, who campaigned heavily for the plant’s construction during his tenure as mayor of Chattanooga, told the Associated Press. "They will become the object of many business school studies—and I'm a little worried could become a laughingstock in many ways—if they inflict this wound."
Corker isn’t the only right-winger out to halt UAW’s campaign. In the absence of any overt anti-union offensive by Volkswagen, conservative political operatives worried about the UAW getting a foothold in the South have stepped into the fray. |
Matt Paterson, from DC, was the outsider point-man opposing the union. Eventually, he received funding from Americans for Tax Reform. Basically, the national right-wing will now intervene in local politics to bust unions. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:33 am Post subject: |
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Sir, I demand you not pay my constituents well. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Sir, I demand you not pay my constituents well. |
A worker's right to be underpaid shall not be infringed. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:13 am Post subject: |
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I know what they're thinking. They see the impact that unions had on the Big 3 automakers and want to prevent this from happening to the few jobs that they have in that region. If wages rise too much the factory will ship off to Mexico or Tejas or similar. However VW has a long history of paying workers well and maintaining amicable relations with unions - in Germany.
It is very difficult. Tariffs and pro-wage trade deals would help out a bunch. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Anti-UAW Consultant: Defeat ‘Invading Union Force’ at VW Plant Like Our Confederate Ancestors
One hundred and fifty years ago an invading Union army was halted at Chattanooga by the Confederate Army of Tennessee under General Braxton Bragg. The Battle of Chickamauga was one of the bloodiest days of the entire Civil War, and a resounding defeat for the Northern forces. Today Southeastern Tennessee faces invasion from another union— an actual labor union, the United Auto Workers (UAW). The UAW has its heart set on organizing Chattanooga’s Volkswagen plant, which employs several thousand and supports thousands more throughout the Southeast. […]
No wonder Hamilton County Commissioner Tim Boyd warns that unionization “will be like a cancer on [Chattanooga’s] economic growth.” Indeed it would be, though perhaps an infection is a more apt metaphor, an infection borne by an invading union force from the North. One hundred and fifty years ago, the people of Tennessee routed such a force in the Battle of Chickamauga.
Let their descendants go now and do likewise.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/177162/lets-defeat-invading-union-force-vw-plant-our-confederate-ancestors-says-anti-uaw-consul |
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RangerMcGreggor
Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Location: Somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Titus wrote: |
If wages rise too much the factory will ship off to Mexico or Tejas or similar. |
No they won't. Automakers already outsourced many jobs to Mexico or other countries (It's a pretty well known fact that most foreign cars are more "American" than American brands), so generally these jobs that for some reason being doing in the USA is better for the business (I'm guessing labor that they don't trust non-skilled workers with). Furthermore, US union autoworkers are actually paid average-to-below average wages for what their competition receives in other countries. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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RangerMcGreggor wrote: |
Titus wrote: |
If wages rise too much the factory will ship off to Mexico or Tejas or similar. |
No they won't. Automakers already outsourced many jobs to Mexico or other countries (It's a pretty well known fact that most foreign cars are more "American" than American brands), so generally these jobs that for some reason being doing in the USA is better for the business (I'm guessing labor that they don't trust non-skilled workers with). Furthermore, US union autoworkers are actually paid average-to-below average wages for what their competition receives in other countries. |
Texas is still in the USA. I know Perry talked about seceding and it does seem like a another country, but it hasn't left just quite yet. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Anti-UAW Consultant: Defeat ‘Invading Union Force’ at VW Plant Like Our Confederate Ancestors
One hundred and fifty years ago an invading Union army was halted at Chattanooga by the Confederate Army of Tennessee under General Braxton Bragg. The Battle of Chickamauga was one of the bloodiest days of the entire Civil War, and a resounding defeat for the Northern forces. Today Southeastern Tennessee faces invasion from another union— an actual labor union, the United Auto Workers (UAW). The UAW has its heart set on organizing Chattanooga’s Volkswagen plant, which employs several thousand and supports thousands more throughout the Southeast. […]
No wonder Hamilton County Commissioner Tim Boyd warns that unionization “will be like a cancer on [Chattanooga’s] economic growth.” Indeed it would be, though perhaps an infection is a more apt metaphor, an infection borne by an invading union force from the North. One hundred and fifty years ago, the people of Tennessee routed such a force in the Battle of Chickamauga.
Let their descendants go now and do likewise.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/177162/lets-defeat-invading-union-force-vw-plant-our-confederate-ancestors-says-anti-uaw-consul |
Someone needs a history and geography lesson, but what do you expect from some of these loons.
Chickamauga was fought in Northern Georgia, not Tennessee. It was a Confederate victory, but one that Bragg completely bulloxed. He had a chance to follow up his victory, but was more shocked at the casualties he had suffered. Not to mention, within the defeat, the Union forces had salvaged some of their pride and won a "mini-victory" with George H. Thomas' stand (hence his name- 'The Rock of Chickamauga') and Gordon Granger's ignoring orders and marching to the sound of guns and allowing Rosecrans' routed forces to retreat back to Chattanooga.
And of course, this led to the Chattanooga Campaign, which was another brilliant campaign by U.S. Grant and a resounding Confederate defeat. Featuring the "Battle Above the Clouds" at Lookout Mountain and the improbably Union charge up Missionary Ridge, where the Union forces shattered the Confederate Army in a supposedly impregnable position and sent it running in a complete state of panic, save Paddy Cleburne's Division.
Here's hoping that the Union in 2013 has similar results and sends the Graybacks a runnin back to Georgia. |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006 Location: China
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:55 am Post subject: |
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from the beginn
Corker who is more middle of the road than right wing is just posturing for the Teabqg fringe. Everyone knew that VW was Union friendly right from the start. Quit a bit was
made of this and how it might affect other industries. Politicans posing as being tough. Nothing to see really |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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Titus wrote: |
I know what they're thinking. They see the impact that unions had on the Big 3 automakers and want to prevent this from happening to the few jobs that they have in that region. If wages rise too much the factory will ship off to Mexico or Tejas or similar. However VW has a long history of paying workers well and maintaining amicable relations with unions - in Germany.
It is very difficult. Tariffs and pro-wage trade deals would help out a bunch. |
I don't believe the Republican politicos and Norquist's Americans for Tax Reform hold any of these good intentions, not whatsoever. Even so, I need not remind you what they say about good intentions.
Unions are on Grover Norquist's enemy list.
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Grover Norquist, the head of the corporate-funded Americans for Tax Reform, reprised Nixon's legacy with a new list of enemies who stood in the way of corporate influence and GOP hegemony, but this time it was comprised of major interest groups, not just individuals.
He urged an all-sided assault on constituencies that helped elect Democrats -- unions, trial lawyers, federally-funded social service agencies, urban political "machines" and low-income minority voters. The goal was -- and still is -- clear: take out the enemy and eliminate the need to fight the next war. |
Unions and trial lawyers are the greatest threat to the GOP and the 0.1% tomorrow. |
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