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Shanghai or Seoul?

 
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hi54u



Joined: 18 Aug 2013

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:23 am    Post subject: Shanghai or Seoul? Reply with quote

I've recently been offered a position in Shanghai and a position in Seoul. I've worked in Korea for a while and I'm considering Shanghai for the experience of being someplace new as Seoul and Korea in general are the same old same old. I would make more money in Korea but so far I'm willing to look pass that for the experience. I should note that I've never been to Shanghai before or even mainland China for that matter, so it would be nice to read some opinions of those who may have worked in both cities or who are at least somewhat familiar with both. How does Shanghai compare to Seoul employment wise and outside of work?
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Speck7



Joined: 05 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't be naive. Take the Shaghai job. Ten times better than life draining Seoul, Korea. Korea is as you put it, "same old, same old" if you want to come back you can, but for heaven's sake, check out China.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shanghai is a lot of fun.
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lemak



Joined: 02 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do a search. The topic gets rehashed at least every couple of months. The general consensus from those who made the jump from Seoul to Shanghai is that the latter is far preferable. It's a modern, cosmopolitan and vibrant city. By comparison Seoul feels like a gray, uniform and depressing backwater.
When I was in Korea I met so many teachers who said they want to go to China to teach. Now I'm in China I've met exactly zero teachers who say the same in reverse.
It is getting expensive though. You'll be barely scraping by on a Chinese university salary. You'll likely have to go for the private schools to keep your head above water financially.
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joelove



Joined: 12 May 2011

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say they are both pretty good cities and if money is your top concern go with the one where you can put more away each month. I'm not sure which I'd prefer, though I've only spent a few short visits to Shanghai and years in Seoul. There was something about Shanghai that was sort of exciting but also just as artificial and money hungry as anywhere else I suppose. Sounds like a toss up to me, even though I prefer Chinese people overall. This is coming from many years in Korea, a few years in Seoul, and a few years in China, and 2 or 3 years not far from Shanghai, with various visits mainly to the area around West Nanjing Street in Shanghai, I believe. Big money area, many foreigners. Looks almost like a Japanese city I thought.

Ask on the China forums too. You'd need to register for the international forums if you are not yet.
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hi54u



Joined: 18 Aug 2013

PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. The consensus on all of the other Shanghai/Seoul threads also overwhelmingly leans towards Shanghai. I just wanted to get an idea of if that's still the case, which it seems to be.
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shanghai was on the news today. The smog was so bad that they lowered their smog restrictions so the warnings would stop. Don't know if you caught that or not. Really funny. You couldn't see two feet in front of you. Crazy Chinese guberment.
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Died By Bear wrote:
Shanghai was on the news today. The smog was so bad that they lowered their smog restrictions so the warnings would stop. Don't know if you caught that or not. Really funny. You couldn't see two feet in front of you. Crazy Chinese guberment.
Since he had already been to Korea, and since he was not worried about money, I thought choosing Shanghai was the easy choice. But you know what, the smog is a definite consideration. I live 2 hours south of Shanghai, and I had never ever seen smog before, until about 2 weeks ago. Even here the locals were saying they had never seen it like this - it was bad for 3 days! The first day I thought it was just lingering morning fog like we get in Florida sometimes. But it never went away.

Shanghai is a cool city, OP, but be prepared for the smog.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I like Seoul better than Shanghai, although I enjoyed my time in Shanghai as well. I have a friend in Shanghai who has said the same thing. She is looking at jobs outside of Shanghai for next year, I think. Assuming the jobs are equal, I'd go for Seoul, personally, but everyone is different.

Btw, Shanghai is totally different from everywhere else in China. My first reaction was that Shanghai was not very Chinese at all (I've been mostly to Beijing and in the more rural south of China before Shanghai).
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shanghai by a long stretch; and it's not really fair to Seoul to compare it with a place like Shanghai. The places are just different.
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joelove



Joined: 12 May 2011

PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for the better looking job. I would, and I would rather be in China than Korea too. Practical matters might interfere.
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