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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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 Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:54 am Post subject: New driving enforcement |
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| I'm not sure if this has been posted here yet, but it might be important for those that drive here. My wife told me that recently the police have cracked down on people not stopping at the stop lines at intersections. There is like a 100k fine and 10 to 15 points on your license as well. |
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fustiancorduroy
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, the police were out writing tickets left and right for drivers stopping past the lines, mainly at big intersections like at Jongro-1ga and at Gangnam Station. I don't mind the law, but if the police are going to enforce it, they should do it regularly and indefinitely. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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I like the South Korean police the way they are. They are not oppressive like in North Korea. They are not trigger happy like in those United States.
Koreans do things in a Korean way and that's just fine with me. |
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Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Not just at intersections but also for stopping on pedestrian crossings. There was a big Korean TV News piece on it on Thursday or Friday.
About time the police cracked down on this lazy behavior of trying to steal a car length on other drivers.
I don't have a Korean drivers licence but there must be a section in the driving code about keeping pedestrian crossings clear. Anyone quote a section?
Also, what are the rules governing a zebra crossing?
The UK Highway code states:
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look out for pedestrians waiting to cross and be ready to slow down or stop to let them cross; and
you MUST give way when a pedestrian has moved onto a crossing |
The only way a Korean drivers gives way is if you step in front of their car; rarely, do any of them slow down as soon as you step onto the crossing. If anything, they speed up to avoid being delayed in their journey by a matter of seconds. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:17 am Post subject: |
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When you see zig-zag lines warning you are approaching a zebra crossing, the driver is to slow down and lookout for pedestrians. That's it. It doesn't say:
car can't stop over the zebra crossing or
pedestrian have the right of way.
Korean road rules didn't evolve like British/American rules where the horse-buggy riding majority wrote up humiliating and inconvenient set of rules over anti-God contraptions such as automobiles. Nope, in Korea car-drivers rule. Why? Gasoline tax, that's why. |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| Yep...my fiancee and I saw it going on frequently here in Incheon. Went to a restaurant with a view of the traffic and they were handing out tickets lieft and right. |
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PEIGUY
Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Omokgyo
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
When you see zig-zag lines warning you are approaching a zebra crossing, the driver is to slow down and lookout for pedestrians. That's it. It doesn't say:
car can't stop over the zebra crossing or
pedestrian have the right of way.
Korean road rules didn't evolve like British/American rules where the horse-buggy riding majority wrote up humiliating and inconvenient set of rules over anti-God contraptions such as automobiles. Nope, in Korea car-drivers rule. Why? Gasoline tax, that's why. |
I thought it was a joke when a K-coworker said to me once: "In Korea, CAR is king!" |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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In the town I'm in, cars actually stop when I step foot in the crosswalk of an uncontrolled intersection. Boy was I surprised. They even don't do that in Toronto.
And other times it's like a symphony of cars going around me. Well, coordinated, and timed, of people walking the cross-walk and cars navigating through. This one guy even stopped for some deaf dog inching it's way across the street.
Ain't going to say where I am because I don't want a mad-rush of foreigners ruining it all for me. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| Died By Bear wrote: |
| andrewchon wrote: |
When you see zig-zag lines warning you are approaching a zebra crossing, the driver is to slow down and lookout for pedestrians. That's it. It doesn't say:
car can't stop over the zebra crossing or
pedestrian have the right of way.
Korean road rules didn't evolve like British/American rules where the horse-buggy riding majority wrote up humiliating and inconvenient set of rules over anti-God contraptions such as automobiles. Nope, in Korea car-drivers rule. Why? Gasoline tax, that's why. |
I thought it was a joke when a K-coworker said to me once: "In Korea, CAR is king!" |
Actually the bus is king of the road in Korea. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!
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| Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:44 am Post subject: |
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| Stan Rogers wrote: |
I like the South Korean police the way they are. They are not oppressive like in North Korea. They are not trigger happy like in those United States.
Koreans do things in a Korean way and that's just fine with me. |
Oh yeah...corruption is rampant...murders are up, sexual assaults are above the average, discrimination is common,.... |
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Popocatepetl
Joined: 14 Oct 2013
Location: Winter in Korea: One Perfect day after another
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
| When you see zig-zag lines warning you are approaching a zebra crossing, the driver is to slow down and lookout for pedestrians. That's it. |
So they don't even have to stop for pedestrians or keep off the crossing? 
I'm so sick and tired of drivers swanning across in front of me then glaring at me like I'm unreasonable when I tell them to get off the crossing!!
Seems to be a tendency here to view laws as grey areas subject to individual interpretation. |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| Popocatepetl wrote: |
| andrewchon wrote: |
| When you see zig-zag lines warning you are approaching a zebra crossing, the driver is to slow down and lookout for pedestrians. That's it. |
So they don't even have to stop for pedestrians or keep off the crossing?
I'm so sick and tired of drivers swanning across in front of me then glaring at me like I'm unreasonable when I tell them to get off the crossing!!
Seems to be a tendency here to view laws as grey areas subject to individual interpretation. |
The law is that they are supposed to stop for you if you have the green light. If it's an uncontrolled crosswalk, the pedestrian always has right of way. Like most laws, the police rarely enforce, so people know that they can get away with not following the law. |
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Popocatepetl
Joined: 14 Oct 2013
Location: Winter in Korea: One Perfect day after another
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| nicwr2002 wrote: |
| Popocatepetl wrote: |
| andrewchon wrote: |
| When you see zig-zag lines warning you are approaching a zebra crossing, the driver is to slow down and lookout for pedestrians. That's it. |
So they don't even have to stop for pedestrians or keep off the crossing?
I'm so sick and tired of drivers swanning across in front of me then glaring at me like I'm unreasonable when I tell them to get off the crossing!!
Seems to be a tendency here to view laws as grey areas subject to individual interpretation. |
The law is that they are supposed to stop for you if you have the green light. If it's an uncontrolled crosswalk, the pedestrian always has right of way. Like most laws, the police rarely enforce, so people know that they can get away with not following the law. |
In other countries though people will stop even if there is no police enforcement or cameras. Because they make a habit of respecting the principle and letter of the law.
Because they know that by so doing and encouraging others to do the same, they are in fact ultimately protecting their own safety.
In Korea however you still have to be extremely wary when stepping onto a crosswalk, even if you have a green light. While you are crossing it is common for a car to plough through in front of you or stop in the middle and totally obstruct your path to safety. Waiting cars will often inch forward or rev their engines at you the moment you walk in front of them.
The risk level of stepping onto a korean zebra crossing is probably not much different to strolling across a five-lane highway at rush hour. I'm glad to see they are finally doing something about it. |
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goreality
Joined: 09 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Stan Rogers wrote: |
I like the South Korean police the way they are. They are not oppressive like in North Korea. They are not trigger happy like in those United States.
Koreans do things in a Korean way and that's just fine with me. |
I think there is a lot of merit in this comment. Once you figure things out, Korean cops ain't bad. |
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