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Female public school teachers over 30 - medical test?
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cari83



Joined: 20 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:36 pm    Post subject: Female public school teachers over 30 - medical test? Reply with quote

My co-teacher told me I need to get a PAP smear and give them the results. She gave me a form in Korean to give to a doctor and return. She says it's because I'm over 30 now. I'm almost 30 American but not yet. If they're going by my Korean age, I was over 30 last year. My friend who was here last year was 32, and wasn't given the form. I guess it's possible they request it every few years, as I'm a little over 2 years into my contract.

I would like to know, have any other female public school teachers been asked to do this? I feel like it's a little personal. I'm not against getting a test for my own health and private knowledge but it's really none of their business. What if I did have cancer? What are they going to do? Also - are male public school teachers over 30 getting prostate exams?
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Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What if I did have cancer? What are they going to do?


You would get an early (hopefully) indication that you had cancer and you could then arrange to have treatment.

I know of two teachers who have found that they had cancer thanks to these checks. In both instances it was caught early and they were quickly treated - fingers crossed for them.

I know that this is a personal thing, but really, come on think about it!

FWIW - I had my medical exam a few months ago and I had the prostate check (i'm under 30) but I asked the doctor if he would put his finger up my bum anyway.

He found some corn. Twisted Evil
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waynehead



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Jongno

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't tell you about female tests, but I'm 31/32 (western age/Korean), male, and no I was not required to have a prostate exam. But to be fair, I believe it's recommended for men over 40 to start getting them, not 30.
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its part of the 2 year annual physical exam that nhic requires, check with your regular dr (or on a US website) and see if under 30 they'd rec that. If not tell them to bugger off, you don't need it. I'd also be dammed if I were to give my employer my medical results.

Heck every time I go in for a physical they try and push the prostate and an endoscopy exams, I tell them since there is no history of cancer in my family and I don't eat, drink, smoke like a Korean male there is no need for those tests, you just need to be insistent
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always opt for the minimum tests required but I'd guess that if you refused a specific NHIC-mandated age-related test that you'd be compromising your coverage should a related problem arise.

I know my PS would get testy about it too.

I've hit a threshold where I'm obliged to do some kind of gut check & submit a shit sample by the end of the year. I'll play along.
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YTMND



Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Free prostrate exam? Where do I sign up? If you are thinking about coming to Korea, it might help to check your liver too.
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Popocatepetl



Joined: 14 Oct 2013
Location: Winter in Korea: One Perfect day after another

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucas wrote:

I know that this is a personal thing, but really, come on think about it!


You're missing the point.

Its not that she is against taking a test herself privately if she feels so inclined.

Its that her employer is forcing her to reveal highly personal information unecessarily... that they have no right to.

Its called violation of privacy.

My advice to the OP is politely, firmly, refuse. If they threaten consequences then tell them you will be contacting the labor board about it.

They're just trying it on. Koreans tend to ask foreigners to do stuff that they would never dare ask a fellow korean to do. Tell them where to go.


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absolutmike



Joined: 28 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:30 am    Post subject: Medical testing Reply with quote

I had something similar happen (I'm over 40 and male) I was told I must have the prostate exam here in Korea. That's incorrect, they highly recommend the testing. They don't typically encounter Koreans that say NO, so my statement caused a lot of 'panic'. It is your body, you have the right to agree to testing as you see fit. NHIC recommends it, it is not law.

If you are concerned about 'early screening' do it the next time you return to your country, where your Medical Records are more secure and everyone at your school doesn't know your business.
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rollo



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sheer horror of having a health check.. How dare they try to ensure your health and also keep health care costs down by early detection of problems. I suggest you contact the U.N. your ambassador and a letter to amnesty international at the least. This tyranny will not stand.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, people still missing the point. *The point is not that she has to do a health check* the point is that giving them results from a pap smear should be unnecessary. They can recommend she do one herself, but this does seem a little much.

I'm over 30 and I've never been asked to do this in my 2 year health checks, OP. I think you can tell them no.
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Reset



Joined: 06 Jul 2011
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have my own OBGYN who works at his own clinic. I wouldn't want to go to some school-mandated institution for that kind of invasive thing. Tell them that you'll leave that part of medical exams to your personal doctor.
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T-dot



Joined: 16 May 2004
Location: bundang

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its the 2 year health check, there should be a designated clinic/hospital that you have to go to.

The results of those tests arent given to the school, the HNIC keep a copy and give one to you.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, if you don't have a regular OBGYN (which I've found to be the case with many foreign women working here) it's a great idea to take advantage of this free service, invasive or not, because cancer's no joke, and even if it's a violation of privacy, I'd rather know if I had abnormal cells ASAP. For those of us with a regular, vetted doctor, however, it's just icky to go elsewhere when we're already comfortable.

For the guys, who many not understand just how invasive it is, have you ever shopped around for a dentist? I'm assuming that many of you are a bit young to need a proctologist , but I could be wrong of course. Well, you know how it may have taken several tries until you found a dentist with whom you felt comfortable? Finding a good OBGYN is like that squared.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Medical testing Reply with quote

absolutmike wrote:
I had something similar happen (I'm over 40 and male) I was told I must have the prostate exam here in Korea.


I was told that I have to do a stomachache cancer check due to my 40th. I told them no, they said that I could lose my insurance and the school will be fined 10 Mil. So the school will be fined so they pressure the employee. Luckily my contract ended before the due date.

Total BS to me. I don't even want the insurance, have to pay for it, and they're telling me to do medical tests or face fines. Too much government power.
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