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Seoul Positions are only ONE WAY airfare now?? Thoughts?
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untouchable_88



Joined: 05 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: Seoul Positions are only ONE WAY airfare now?? Thoughts? Reply with quote

Hi guys

I have experience teaching esl in korea and I'm looking for an afternoon hagwon job starting late february or start of march next year in central seoul.

Advertisements for jobs and recruiters are all saying most jobs are now only offering one way airfare!?! Evil or Very Mad

should I accept this? Sad
what are everyones thoughts??

Also, other than davesesl, what are good sites for ESL seoul jobs?

thanks
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Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always take a cargo boat back home - work on there in exchange for your free ticket.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Seoul Positions are only ONE WAY airfare now?? Thoughts? Reply with quote

untouchable_88 wrote:
Hi guys

I have experience teaching esl in korea and I'm looking for an afternoon hagwon job starting late february or start of march next year in central seoul.

Advertisements for jobs and recruiters are all saying most jobs are now only offering one way airfare!?! Evil or Very Mad

should I accept this? Sad
what are everyones thoughts??

Also, other than davesesl, what are good sites for ESL seoul jobs?



thanks


I'd say keep looking. Fidn those that will pay return airfare. This is why you must avoid Korean recruiters at all costs. They lie through their teeth. You know they're splitting the money with the hakwon owner and keeping it, right?

Only use large proffesional recruiters if you must use a Korean one, but use western based recruiters as much as possible. Find a job with return airfare and tell the others to piss off.
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untouchable_88



Joined: 05 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:15 pm    Post subject: thanks for the reply! two nore questions: Reply with quote

what Recruiters would you suggest?

as someone who wants to work in seoul with prior experience , what minimum salary should I accept??

thanks again
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meangradin



Joined: 10 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think one should get used to this. Times are a changing, and have been for awhile now. From what I hear, there is a cap on flights for PS teachers at one million won. Also, many employers now look from within Korea first before thinking of bringing a teacher in.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conditions and wages have been slowly but steadily been declining for a long time now. Damn, it sucks to see things get worse.
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Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Conditions and wages have been slowly but steadily been declining for a long time now. Damn, it sucks to see things get worse.


There'll be a group of EPIK teachers on every street corner soon, burning wood just to keep warm!
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their jobs will get cut, then they'll stick around on the D-10 visa working a conglomeration of part time jobs for 20k an hour, the consequence of which is reduced wages for everyone. (Already happening.)
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you certain they only offer one-way airfare or that they offer one-way passage now and the one-way passage out of Korea when you complete the contract?
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goat



Joined: 23 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
Their jobs will get cut, then they'll stick around on the D-10 visa working a conglomeration of part time jobs for 20k an hour, the consequence of which is reduced wages for everyone. (Already happening.)


Darn Canadians. One moves into the neighborhood and the next thing you know everyone's property value goes down.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: Seoul Positions are only ONE WAY airfare now?? Thoughts? Reply with quote

untouchable_88 wrote:


should I accept this? Sad


No
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you and others start accepting these offers, then it surely will become the norm. If you and everyone else reject these offers, then they won't become the norm. Quite simple really. If you're a young American, take the extra couple of months staying in mom and dad's basement working your Mcjob. This way you can get a decent job once you do finally get over here. Don't be so impatient you accept BS. If they are going to nickle and dime you on one or two things, what's not to say they won't on other things or get you over here and not pay you.

It's all about perspective son.

As for recruiters, search of American, Canadian, British, South African recruiters or whomever. If you use a Korean one, only a large professional one will do. (Though they may play their games too. But applying to multiple recruiters can cut some of that.) Only use a small Korean one if you have multiple testimonials about it. If they pressure you or try to manipulate you into a job, drop them. Nothing goodwill come of it.

Large Korean recruiters are Footprints, Korevia, etc. Western ones, Canadian Connection, Korjob Canada, Korjob, Longbridge Pacific (but they mostly recruit for CDI - mixed reviews about them), Morgan recruiting, GMSC Vancouver, Korean Horizons... Plenty more. Do some google searches and look for ads on various ESL sites.

I'm sure there are lots more that are good too.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found this on Google. Don't know if it's accurate or not. You can all comment if you have any experience with these:

http://bssk.forumkorean.com/t3-recruiters-used-in-south-korea-verified
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meangradin wrote:
From what I hear, there is a cap on flights for PS teachers at one million won.

You get 2 million cash now. 1 million when you start and 1 million when you're done your contract. They don't care about the ticket anymore. However, if you quite before 6 months, you've got to pay like 700k back.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking about GEPIK (who changed the pay scale for the worse) or EPIK (who did some changing for the worse with vacation and pay, but not as bad). I thought EPIK gave 1.3 for flights (and took away the first 1.3 recently for people applying from within Korea). Are they down to 1 mil now? Such a shame. But it is to be expected. Gangnam public schools took away flight money completely. This with an increased workload (more mandatory unpaid camp hours, less vacation, more paperwork, etc. >_<) all across the board for foreign public school teachers.
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