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kylemcgee
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 Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:32 am Post subject: Masters but no Bachelors |
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Hello -
I've been teaching English in Asia, North Africa, and the Middle East for 10+ years. I have a Associates of Arts degree, a CELTA degree, and a MA in English Language Teaching, but no BA. Is anyone aware of anyone who managed to get an E2 visa for Korea without a BA?
I've heard conflicting answers. Thanks!
Kyle
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Speck7
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| Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:34 am Post subject: Re: Masters but no Bachelors |
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| kylemcgee wrote: |
Hello -
I've been teaching English in Asia for 10+ years. I have a Associates of Arts degree, a CELTA degree, and a MA in English Language Teaching, but no BA. Is anyone aware of anyone who managed to get an E2 visa for Korea without a BA?
I've heard conflicting answers. Thanks!
Kyle |
Get some motivation and ambition, KYLE. My God. What sort of Asian fetish do you have anyway? So weird. You've been waiting for ten years to be a clown monkey abc teacher getting paid 25k a year? Grow up. |
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ghostrider
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| Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:49 am Post subject: Re: Masters but no Bachelors |
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What kind of university grants MAs to people who don't even have a Bachelor's degree? Probably the same university Thiessen got his "doctorate" from. LOL.
The answer is no. You do not meet the minimum requirements for an E2 visa. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
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| Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:50 am Post subject: |
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| Couldn't he get an E2 based on the MA? |
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young_clinton
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| Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| I've never heard of being able to get a Master's without a Bachelor's. If you don't have a Bachelor's you don't have a Master's. There would quickly be accreditation problems for the university who granted a Master's. |
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CentralCali
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| Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:53 am Post subject: Re: Masters but no Bachelors |
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| ghostrider wrote: |
| What kind of university grants MAs to people who don't even have a Bachelor's degree? Probably the same university Thiessen got his "doctorate" from. LOL. |
It's not unheard of for a reputable and legitimate university to grant admission to a master's program for someone with exceptional indicators of performance in the intended field of study.
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| The answer is no. You do not meet the minimum requirements for an E2 visa. |
True. And that's because Korea doesn't apply logic to the issue. |
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ttompatz
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Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Masters but no Bachelors |
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| kylemcgee wrote: |
Hello -
I've been teaching English in Asia for 10+ years. I have a Associates of Arts degree, a CELTA degree, and a MA in English Language Teaching, but no BA. Is anyone aware of anyone who managed to get an E2 visa for Korea without a BA?
I've heard conflicting answers. Thanks!
Kyle |
CELTA degree????
Short answer is no. Korean immigration requires an authenticated (apostille affixed) Bachelors Degree from one of the "approved 7 countries" and you don't have one.
Your ONLY legal option would be the TaLK program (you qualify with the Associate and CELTA). http://www.talk.go.kr//talk/talk/talkhme/main.jsp .
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edwardcatflap
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| Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I've never heard of being able to get a Master's without a Bachelor's. If you don't have a Bachelor's you don't have a Master's. There would quickly be accreditation problems for the university who granted a Master's. |
Some Scottish universities grant Masters to people without BAs. You do a four year course - one more than usual for a UK university - and come out with a Masters instead of a BA |
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kylemcgee
Joined: 11 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Masters but no Bachelors |
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Actually, I have taught in many regions including North Africa, Asia and the Middle East. I didn't realize my question invited people to comment on my life choices. I travel and teach in different regions to experience different cultures and traditions. Money is not a concern of mine, experience is. I just finished teaching for a year as a volunteer in Bhutan.
I would suggest you simply answer questions if you have useful comments. If not, perhaps you should judge your own life and decisions and keep your childish comments about others to yourself.
Kyle
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| kylemcgee wrote: |
Hello -
I've been teaching English in Asia for 10+ years. I have a Associates of Arts degree, a CELTA degree, and a MA in English Language Teaching, but no BA. Is anyone aware of anyone who managed to get an E2 visa for Korea without a BA?
I've heard conflicting answers. Thanks!
Kyle |
Get some motivation and ambition, KYLE. My God. What sort of Asian fetish do you have anyway? So weird. You've been waiting for ten years to be a clown monkey abc teacher getting paid 25k a year? Grow up. |
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kylemcgee
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| Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Masters but no Bachelors |
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What kind of university grants MAs to people who don't even have a Bachelor's degree? Probably the same university Thiessen got his "doctorate" from. LOL.
The answer is no. You do not meet the minimum requirements for an E2 visa. |
The university in question was Nottingham University (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk). It is a very reputable university and certainly it's accredited. They accepted me based on my AA degree, my CELTA, and my teaching experience. It's not uncommon for universities in Europe (including the UK) to evaluate a students entry requirements based on more than whether or not they have a BA.
Kyle |
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kylemcgee
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| Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| I've never heard of being able to get a Master's without a Bachelor's. If you don't have a Bachelor's you don't have a Master's. There would quickly be accreditation problems for the university who granted a Master's. |
The university in question is Nottingham University (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk). They are a very well-known and respected university and of course they are accredited. Getting accepted into a MA program based on previous experience and schooling is not uncommon in Europe and the UK.
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kylemcgee
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| Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Masters but no Bachelors |
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| kylemcgee wrote: |
Hello -
I've been teaching English in Asia for 10+ years. I have a Associates of Arts degree, a CELTA degree, and a MA in English Language Teaching, but no BA. Is anyone aware of anyone who managed to get an E2 visa for Korea without a BA?
I've heard conflicting answers. Thanks!
Kyle |
CELTA degree????
Short answer is no. Korean immigration requires an authenticated (apostille affixed) Bachelors Degree from one of the "approved 7 countries" and you don't have one.
Your ONLY legal option would be the TaLK program (you qualify with the Associate and CELTA). http://www.talk.go.kr//talk/talk/talkhme/main.jsp .
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The CELTA degree is the Cambridge English Language Teaching Association. It is a well-known and respected TEFL course. Look it up for more info.
Yes, I'm worried about my lack of MA. I talked to a few Korean embassies and they indicated the employer makes the decision and I should be fine. However, I will give the TALK program a look.
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schwa
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I for one respect your life choices & work history. Adventure & self-satisfaction over dollars, good on ya.
But fact is, as pointed out above, Korean immi will focus on the B in front of the A.
Best luck in your next endeavor, sincerely. |
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ttompatz
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Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: Masters but no Bachelors |
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| kylemcgee wrote: |
The CELTA degree is the Cambridge English Language Teaching Association. It is a well-known and respected TEFL course. Look it up for more info.
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The CELTA is NOT a degree in any way, shape or form. You could have at least got the name (Certificate in English Language Teaching to Adults) correct.
It is a 30-day, 120 hour certificate. It is about the same as a single semester of part-time study (9 credit hours at an accredited uni).
And, for the record, I AM a CELTA trainer as well as a Cambridge ESOL examiner and Cambridge Assessment Center Manager).
And you are welcome.
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kylemcgee
Joined: 11 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:57 pm Post subject: Re: Masters but no Bachelors |
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| kylemcgee wrote: |
The CELTA degree is the Cambridge English Language Teaching Association. It is a well-known and respected TEFL course. Look it up for more info.
Thanks! |
The CELTA is NOT a degree in any way, shape or form. You could have at least got the name (Certificate in English Language Teaching to Adults) correct.
It is a 30-day, 120 hour certificate. It is about the same as a single semester of part-time study (9 credit hours at an accredited uni).
And, for the record, I AM a CELTA trainer as well as a Cambridge ESOL examiner and Cambridge Assessment Center Manager).
And you are welcome.
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Sorry for my lack of knowledge of anacronyms. Must be my year in Bhutan getting to me where they throw them around so often. Can you guess the meaning of SUPW? Socially Useful Productive Work.. In other words: gardening! 
Yes, it's a certificate, not a degree. The point is it's a highly respected certification that my uni recognized and it was one factor that helped me get into the MA program without a BA.
Please watch your tone.. I'm not looking for battles. I'm looking for answers to my original question which I have now.
Later.. |
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