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Allthechildrenareinsane



Joined: 23 Jun 2011
Location: Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:59 pm    Post subject: Why phonics matters. . . Reply with quote

Not sure if this is funny, sad, or some tragi-comic combo. Anyway, thought I'd share:

http://imgur.com/Frn4Fmq
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think phonics would improve this kind of situation. If anything Nazi might sound like the word she is trying to use for her online name. On the other hand she is not Korean, the domestic helper is a dead give away for that. Most likely she is SE Asian. Maybe she is Thai. Thais are notorious for their misunderstanding of the Nazis and public sensitivities elsewhere. I think it's because their culture is so distant from the Western culture.
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maximmm



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you referring to 'I am wait' or her name 'Nazi'?

Grammar/spelling does not equals to phonics.

A moron is criticizing a woman who is poor at English - while not realizing the nature of her mistake. Meanwhile, another moron posts it on eslcafe and states that this is why phonics matters.

I call that a triple fail.

I am being harsh, but if you are going to criticize someone who is not proficient in English, at least do so properly.
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Allthechildrenareinsane



Joined: 23 Jun 2011
Location: Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maximmm wrote:
Are you referring to 'I am wait' or her name 'Nazi'?

Grammar/spelling does not equals to phonics.

A moron is criticizing a woman who is poor at English - while not realizing the nature of her mistake. Meanwhile, another moron posts it on eslcafe and states that this is why phonics matters.

I call that a triple fail.

I am being harsh, but if you are going to criticize someone who is not proficient in English, at least do so properly.


Well, glad we could keep things civil, then. Rolling Eyes

I wasn't criticizing the woman depicted in the profile per se, but rather the inadequacies of English language education in Korea that (so I thought) lead to her attempting to phonetically render in the Roman alphabet what I presumed to be the Korean 나지. I had assumed the woman was Korean, since her profile appeared on a Korean dating site.

Anybody who has taught in Korea knows that Korean EFL learners often have trouble distinguishing between the phonemes spelled "j" and "z" in English, and sometimes mix them up, the result of too much emphasis on memorization of grammar and vocabulary in Korean EFL education at the expense of spoken and written communicative abilities.

But, as it turns out, I jumped to conclusions. I looked up the profile on the site and the woman is not, in fact, Korean (as one poster already guessed), but actually from Kyrgyzstan. There are, in fact, two women on that dating site with the name "Nazi," both from Kyrgyzstan. A quick Google search revealed another dating website with yet a third woman (http://kohanka.com/en/nazi-91) from Kyrgyzstan with the name.

So now I'm wondering now how common a name "Nazi" is in the Kyrgyz language? (Presumably it's not pronounced the same way as the English word it shares a spelling w/). Anyway, I stand corrected (and better informed).
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radcon



Joined: 23 May 2011

PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When she wrote " I am wait" was she trying to say that she will wait or was she trying to convey " I am wet."
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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allthechildrenareinsane wrote:
maximmm wrote:
Are you referring to 'I am wait' or her name 'Nazi'?

Grammar/spelling does not equals to phonics.

A moron is criticizing a woman who is poor at English - while not realizing the nature of her mistake. Meanwhile, another moron posts it on eslcafe and states that this is why phonics matters.

I call that a triple fail.

I am being harsh, but if you are going to criticize someone who is not proficient in English, at least do so properly.


Well, glad we could keep things civil, then. Rolling Eyes

I wasn't criticizing the woman depicted in the profile per se, but rather the inadequacies of English language education in Korea that (so I thought) lead to her attempting to phonetically render in the Roman alphabet what I presumed to be the Korean 나지. I had assumed the woman was Korean, since her profile appeared on a Korean dating site.

Anybody who has taught in Korea knows that Korean EFL learners often have trouble distinguishing between the phonemes spelled "j" and "z" in English, and sometimes mix them up, the result of too much emphasis on memorization of grammar and vocabulary in Korean EFL education at the expense of spoken and written communicative abilities.

But, as it turns out, I jumped to conclusions. I looked up the profile on the site and the woman is not, in fact, Korean (as one poster already guessed), but actually from Kyrgyzstan. There are, in fact, two women on that dating site with the name "Nazi," both from Kyrgyzstan. A quick Google search revealed another dating website with yet a third woman (http://kohanka.com/en/nazi-91) from Kyrgyzstan with the name.

So now I'm wondering now how common a name "Nazi" is in the Kyrgyz language? (Presumably it's not pronounced the same way as the English word it shares a spelling w/). Anyway, I stand corrected (and better informed).


Sounds to me like you were just looking for an excuse to check out Asian dating sites all afternoon.
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Allthechildrenareinsane



Joined: 23 Jun 2011
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hokie21 wrote:


Sounds to me like you were just looking for an excuse to check out Asian dating sites all afternoon.



A friend in Korea emailed me the link to the screenshot. Based on what another poster had said, I was curious whether the woman actually was Korean or not, so I used my old profile on there from when I was in Korea to look up her username. (And yeah, I had a profile on Korean Cupid. I know, I know -- shut up.)

Like I said, I jumped to conclusions, although it is kind of surprising to find out that "Nazi" is an apparently common name in Kyrgyzstan.
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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha I was only joking.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well in Korean, Nazis are written 나찌즈. (should be 낫시스, but never mind)

Fair enough that it is an opportunity for a dope joke, but where can you go after that?

Something else about phonics: internet-ad for Bonjour app. subtitled: 봉주르. Would any French speaker agree with that? Laughing


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nate1983



Joined: 30 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assumed the OP was talking about "I am wait" - also, she definitely has a look about her that does not suggest born and raised Korean.
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