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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk
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 Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:51 pm Post subject: Geopolitical "relationships" |
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when just hanging out or dating chicks its not as much as a problem but what do you or people you know of do when an american guy marries a woman from
south korea: how do deal with either her or her parents bad mouthing either the foreign or domestic policy of the usa?
i am thinking mainly in terms of the korean war and the policies towards north korea and how it effects the south - american troops stationed here, etc.
japan: what do you do every year when august 6th rolls around (hiroshima atom bomb attack - 1945)?
how is the attack on pearl harbor or world war 2 handled?
china: mao, the south china sea, etc
russia: putin, ukraine, the previous cold war
vietnam: the vietnam war....
i mean do these issues just swept under the rug because it seems to me that it would be really difficult to always avoid discussing them for the sake of not pissing each other off. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I just agree with whatever appa says. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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south korea: how do deal with either her or her parents bad mouthing either the foreign or domestic policy of the usa?
i am thinking mainly in terms of the korean war and the policies towards north korea and how it effects the south |
AFFECTS.
I think you'll need to worry more about her parents bad mouthing YOU, not your country!  |
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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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i should have just written "fx"
bad mouthing my country IS bad mouthing me....it is an indirect way of doing it but they are doing it nonetheless. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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i should have just written "fx"
bad mouthing my country IS bad mouthing me....it is an indirect way of doing it but they are doing it nonetheless. |
Yep, good idea.  |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Zackback wrote: |
i should have just written "fx"
bad mouthing my country IS bad mouthing me....it is an indirect way of doing it but they are doing it nonetheless. |
Bad mouth Korean policy back? |
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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Thought about doing that but man that's what tears me up. It would be easy to do but then I would lose the girl. And knowing who I am that means the same thing as losing a hot girl.
It's happened before and it pains me to think about what I lost. |
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aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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Thought about doing that but man that's what tears me up. It would be easy to do but then I would lose the girl. And knowing who I am that means the same thing as losing a hot girl.
It's happened before and it pains me to think about what I lost. |
Pander to their more immediate prejudices.
If they start going on about your country just quickly guide the discussion to how much you can't stand things/people from Jeolla/Osaka/Henan etc... |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| Whenever a Korean complains to me about US troops on Korean soil I tell them the following: American citizens overwhelmingly don't want our troops in Korea, the troops themselves hate being here. Your democratically elected government welcomes them with open arms. So if you don't want them here make your government un-invite them and they will be gone right quick. The Philippines did just that. Are you saying that Korea is weaker than the Philippines? |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:27 am Post subject: |
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I guess I'm lucky, my FIL is very thankful to the US Army. When I first got to know him, he called Roh Moo-hyun a communist.
A couple of years ago he toured China. He said, "Korea has nice places, but in China they're much grander."
He's never mentioned Dokdo or Japan.
So I find him easy to agree with.
My MIL doesn't take positions on any of these things. She just loves cooking. It's like visiting Italians, there's so much food. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| It's like visiting Italians, there's so much food. |
But Korean food is sat there on the plate, rotting and has flies circling above.  |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Whenever a Korean complains to me about US troops on Korean soil I tell them the following: American citizens overwhelmingly don't want our troops in Korea |
Two polls here each show 60% support. Where do you see them being overwhelmingly against?
http://www.realclearworld.com/blog/2011/02/us_views_on_forward_deployments.html
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49% of Likely U.S. voters think we should remove troops from Western Europe and let the region defend itself. Forty-eight percent (48%) feel the same way about Japan. However, 60% say the United States should leave its troops in South Korea.
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http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/09/american-public-opinion-is-remarkably-coolheaded-on-north-korea/262328/
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| Within Asia, the greatest level of American support for a forward U.S. military presence is for the U.S. troop presence in South Korea perceived by two-thirds of Americans as a strong partner of the United States, with 60 percent of respondents favoring a continued U.S. presence there. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder what percentage of the SK populace wants the US to leave? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| Zackback wrote: |
| bad mouthing my country IS bad mouthing me....it is an indirect way of doing it but they are doing it nonetheless. |
It's not about you.
Cultural or character flaw? .... people who can't separate self from some piece of dirt and policies made 10,000 miles away.
You are not unique in that issue. There are many others from many places who also share that flaw.
They seem to think that because their passport comes from one particular geographical place that they somehow have to defend the stupidity of the governmental policies of that place.
Once you separate self from nationality (you are your own being capable of making your own, independent decisions) then the problem goes away. Heck, at home you feel right at home attacking the policies of your own government. Why should others be excluded from that same opportunity if they are effected by those same policies?
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| So if you don't want them here make your government un-invite them and they will be gone right quick. The Philippines did just that. |
That is not entirely accurate.
The Philippines was a US dependency. Korea was not (although with some of the puppet governments supported by the US military that may be debatable).
The US still continues to maintain a military presence in the Philippines including combat troops in the deep south.
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
| So if you don't want them here make your government un-invite them and they will be gone right quick. The Philippines did just that. |
That is not entirely accurate.
The Philippines was a US dependency. Korea was not (although with some of the puppet governments supported by the US military that may be debatable).
The US still continues to maintain a military presence in the Philippines including combat troops in the deep south.
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It is very accurate. The Philipines became independent from the US in 1945.
" On December 27, 1991 President Corazon Aquino, who had previously fought to delay the U.S. pullout to cushion the country's battered economy, issued a formal notice for the U.S. to leave Subic Bay naval base by the end of 1992."
"During 1992, tons of material including drydocks and equipment, were shipped to various Naval Stations. Ship-repair and maintenance yards as well as supply depots were relocated to other Asian countries including Japan and Singapore. Finally, on November 24, 1992, the American Flag was lowered in Subic for the last time and the last 1,416 Sailors and Marines at Subic Bay Naval Base left by plane from Naval Air Station Cubi Point and by the USS Belleau Wood. This withdrawal marked the first time since the 16th century that no foreign military forces were present in the Philippines."
The Phillipines ordered the US military out, and they left. Years later the PI allowed US forces back in, but that is moot to this discussion. |
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