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raewon



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:42 am    Post subject: Question on think is / consider Reply with quote

I hope everyone had (is having ^^) a good weekend.

I wasn't sure how to word my subject heading, as I'm not sure what the grammatical structure I'm questioning is. Here is the sentence:

While in the countryside, the musician wrote Symphony No. 7, which many (think/think is) his greatest symphony.

In that sentence, aren't both choices grammatically possible? If they
are, I'm not sure why. And if I replace that part with "consider" - then
I think it works as well, but not with "consider is".

Thanks for any comments/help anyone might have on this one.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:05 am    Post subject: Re: Question on think is / consider Reply with quote

raewon wrote:
...In that sentence, aren't both choices grammatically possible? If theyare, I'm not sure why. And if I replace that part with "consider" - then I think it works as well, but not with "consider is".

For whatever reason, "consider to be" would be the more natural construct: "...which many consider to be his greatest symphony." Not sure if "consider is" is incorrect or just awkward sounding.

"To be" also works with "think" just as well as your two examples, which both seem fine.
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The Cosmic Hum



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Question on think is / consider Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
raewon wrote:
...In that sentence, aren't both choices grammatically possible? If theyare, I'm not sure why. And if I replace that part with "consider" - then I think it works as well, but not with "consider is".

For whatever reason, "consider to be" would be the more natural construct: "...which many consider to be his greatest symphony." Not sure if "consider is" is incorrect or just awkward sounding.

"To be" also works with "think" just as well as your two examples, which both seem fine.

Good call on this. And great example, as well.
The reasons for this are many(which is often the case when using/ellipting "be" verbs...but here mostly collocation with a mix of regional preference.

"To be" also works with "seems" just as well as your example, which seems to be fine.
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