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postfundie
Joined: 28 May 2004
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 Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:49 am Post subject: Proposed new rule to avoid racism |
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Instead of saying, "Koreans do this" or "Koreans do that"
Why don't we say, "most Koreans", "some Koreans."
Or better yet, "a lot of people here", "a good majority of people in this country..." .or "maybe something around 70 percent of Koreans here....."
This will help people to avoid generalizations based on race and to really focus on the things that need to change. Then we don't have to hear SR and Patrick post constantly on how the Korean people are denigrated and looked down upon by the posters on this board. |
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aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:35 am Post subject: Re: Proposed new rule to avoid racism |
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| postfundie wrote: |
Instead of saying, "Koreans do this" or "Koreans do that"
Why don't we say, "most Koreans", "some Koreans."
Or better yet, "a lot of people here", "a good majority of people in this country..." .or "maybe something around 70 percent of Koreans here....."
This will help people to avoid generalizations based on race and to really focus on the things that need to change. Then we don't have to hear SR and Patrick post constantly on how the Korean people are denigrated and looked down upon by the posters on this board. |
Good idea and you can extend that to culture as well. Not all bad things that happen in Korea are a result of the failings of Confucianism.
Also terms like 'White' and 'Asian' should also be dropped as they dont really mean anything. I am guilty of using the terms myself and I know it is futile, but if you want to refer to a particular ethnic group be specific.
White people or Asian people are not groups that actually exist in reality. For example, White people in Poland and Canada have a very distinct cultural history. The same goes for Vietnamese and Korean people.
It just seems strange to constantly reduce the varied nationalities and ethnicities of Europe, Africa and Asia into simple White/Black/Asian blocks. |
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Sesame
Joined: 16 Mar 2014
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:45 am Post subject: |
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I say the OP should understand that is what is implied when saying "Koreans". Surely no one is dumb enough on here to suggest 100% of Koreans act a certain way.
Liberals are so annoying. captain save a race. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:46 am Post subject: Re: Proposed new rule to avoid racism |
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| postfundie wrote: |
Instead of saying, "Koreans do this" or "Koreans do that"
Why don't we say, "most Koreans", "some Koreans."
Or better yet, "a lot of people here", "a good majority of people in this country..." .or "maybe something around 70 percent of Koreans here....."
This will help people to avoid generalizations based on race and to really focus on the things that need to change. Then we don't have to hear SR and Patrick post constantly on how the Korean people are denigrated and looked down upon by the posters on this board. |
In other words, why don't people do what they should have been doing in the first place?
This shouldn't be a new rule, this should be the norm. The fact that it isn't is why it gets called out.
Even then, it is still dodgy. You do realize what you are saying in other terms is that we should go from "Blacks steal and do drugs" to "70 percent of blacks steal and do drugs". |
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cam83
Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:24 am Post subject: |
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New rule to avoid being racist? Are you drunk? How about just don't say racist BS.
Serious question OP, why did you make this thread? Because if it was genuinely coming from a good place, with the intention of trying to help others avoid being racist , I'd like to hear it.
However, if you were so caught up in your own ego that you thought a bunch of grown men and women would read your OP and be like "daaaamn son, I gotta learn how to be less racist and now I know how... thanks for the suggestion brah!" then this is hilarious~ |
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aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:56 am Post subject: |
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The OP makes a good point about how posters should be careful and avoid generalising when discussing race and ethnicity.
There is absolutely no reason to fault that comment.
On other threads people make points about 'Whites', 'Blacks' and 'Asians'. These are groups that include literally billions of people and yet they proceed to make all sorts of observations that are supposed to apply to them as a whole.
The lack of any sort of nuance in regards to this topic is the reason why the OP's original comment should be welcome. |
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Stain
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| cam83 wrote: |
New rule to avoid being racist? Are you drunk? How about just don't say racist BS.
Serious question OP, why did you make this thread? Because if it was genuinely coming from a good place, with the intention of trying to help others avoid being racist , I'd like to hear it.
However, if you were so caught up in your own ego that you thought a bunch of grown men and women would read your OP and be like "daaaamn son, I gotta learn how to be less racist and now I know how... thanks for the suggestion brah!" then this is hilarious~ |
I believe you missed the point. He means if we are going to make generalizations about koreans, using "most" or "many" would keep posters like Steelrails from using it as way to downplay these generalizations, which happen to be mostly true despite the fact that that there are exceptions. It's the exceptions that posters like Steelrails use to try to say that these statements are not characteristic of Koreans, even though they are. Therefore, he's not trying to lecture us about racism. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: Proposed new rule to avoid racism |
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| postfundie wrote: |
| Then we don't have to hear SR and Patrick post constantly on how the Korean people are denigrated and looked down upon by the posters on this board. |
| Stain wrote: |
| I believe you missed the point. He means if we are going to make generalizations about koreans, using "most" or "many" would keep posters like Steelrails from using it as way to downplay these generalizations, which happen to be mostly true despite the fact that that there are exceptions. It's the exceptions that posters like Steelrails use to try to say that these statements are not characteristic of Koreans, even though they are. Therefore, he's not trying to lecture us about racism. |
What's happened to this site, where one user's opinion matters so much? |
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DosEquisXX
Joined: 04 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Thought it was pretty well implied that when people saying "Koreans are...", they aren't saying that every single Korean is like that. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Curious to know when the term 'Oriental' became un-pc. I corrected someone last week about this, told them that my wife hates it. | |
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