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jjajangmyun
Joined: 31 Aug 2011
Location: way down south!
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 Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:10 am Post subject: Non-teachers here --> What do you do? THREAD |
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Like the title says, let's get a thread going for those of us here who are not in the teaching world. One thing I'm constantly surprised by is how many foreigners I run across on a daily basis who don't work in any capacity related to teaching. So sound off --> What do you do?
To get the ball rolling, I used to teach but now work in import/export. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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I used to teach but now work as an educational consultant (POE level) and as a school administrator.
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Lucas
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I used to teach but now work as an educational consultant (POE level) and as a school administrator. |
So you eat cake and spend lots of time on Daves then.  |
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chickenpie
Joined: 24 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
I used to teach but now work as an educational consultant (POE level) and as a school administrator.
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Why are so many of the English books used in Korean schools so poor? |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Currently an editor at a place involved with finance. Previously, I have been a content creator in the publishing house for a popular ESL brand, an editor for a small company that produced annual and sustainability reports for Korean companies, and an editor for a media company that created subtitles for TV programs.
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| Why are so many of the English books used in Korean schools so poor? |
Because many people are stirring the pot and senior management likes to override the sensible suggestions made by foreigners. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| chickenpie wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
I used to teach but now work as an educational consultant (POE level) and as a school administrator.
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Why are so many of the English books used in Korean schools so poor? |
Just because they pay for the advice doesn't mean they actually take it.
Better to help their "friends" with books to sell, "friends" with publishing companies, "friends" with print shops or "friends" with book stores.
If by schools you mean hagwons (as compared to schools) ... then their only purpose is profit and satiating the "mothers" who have money.
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chickenpie
Joined: 24 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Public school system.
In three years from elementary to high school level, I've seen some of the worst books in over ten years of teaching. |
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postfundie
Joined: 28 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| good thread, I'd like to hear more about people working here who are not in teaching...Jjajangmyun, are you a Gypo? because I think that makes a big difference on whether or not one can escape from ESL |
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J Rock
Joined: 17 Jan 2009
Location: The center of the Earth, Suji
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:02 am Post subject: |
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I used to teach but as of recently I sell my body on Craigslist. Women cant help but throw themselves at me, even thou I'm overweight, on the wrong side of 30, and hair is starting to turn grey.
All joking aside, I wonder if there really is a demand for Man Whores over here? I might have to start a new business. |
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nate1983
Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| postfundie wrote: |
| good thread, I'd like to hear more about people working here who are not in teaching...Jjajangmyun, are you a Gypo? because I think that makes a big difference on whether or not one can escape from ESL |
I taught my first time over in Korea, but the second time I worked for a foreign bank. Left that job to come back to the US for a position with another financial advisory (institutional consulting) firm. |
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jjajangmyun
Joined: 31 Aug 2011
Location: way down south!
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:19 am Post subject: |
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| postfundie wrote: |
| good thread, I'd like to hear more about people working here who are not in teaching...Jjajangmyun, are you a Gypo? because I think that makes a big difference on whether or not one can escape from ESL |
I am a gyopo but honestly there are actually quite a lot of foreigners here who dont teach and theyre not gyopo.
They work all sorts of jobs. My company has tons of foreigners, a few of whom started by teaching here and then i guess they networked into their current positions.
I know foreigners here who scoured job ads and now work for big companies like Nike or Crocs.
If you to go Ulsan or Geoje, the majority of foreigners there are going to be engineers working for one of the shipyards. Tons of military contractors in my neighborhood of Itaewon/Hannam. Diplomats, embassy workers.
Gangnam has quite a few foreigners working in tech/finance related capacities. My company used to share a building with the Seoul Global Center which helps budding entrepreneurs start businesses in Seoul and a surprisingly high number of them were foreigners rather than Koreans or gyopos. They had some interesting ppl there doing very non-teaching related stuff like the Swiss guy who imports fine European footwear, the French dude who exports eyeglasses, or the British girl who opened her own lingerie store.
I met a German guy here making a living (i have no clue how) as an artist. And of course, there are lots of guys running bars or restaurants.
I mean, there are really a lot out there. Made me realize that ppl really do stick themselves in their own bubbles, surrounding themselves only with ppl similar to them. So teachers only hang out with other teachers and thats all they ever see. I sure as heck did. I used to live in Itaewon as a teacher and I live there now as an export specialist and the ppl i hang out are almost totally different! I grab a drink with coworkers at 6pm, something I couldnt do when working at a hagwon. I hit the gym when teachers are sleeping or working and I hang out with an older more professional and less rowdy crew. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| postfundie wrote: |
| good thread, I'd like to hear more about people working here who are not in teaching...Jjajangmyun, are you a Gypo? because I think that makes a big difference on whether or not one can escape from ESL |
i work for a cutting-edge tech company. if you are qualified there are non-esl jobs out there. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Defense contracts. Lots of nit picky people mixed in with long, boring hours. I like it better than one-hour conversations with Korean lawyers though. It's a little more stable. Count De Monay isn't too bad. |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den
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wife worked for one of the big esl publishers the last 5 1/2 years we were in Korea, its a good way to get into publishing as she landed a gig with a big company here in the states in no time. my 18 years of teaching univ there has not been an asset to landing a job here so far
if you have a skill or get an MBA at Sejong etc, there are some great opps if you look and it can help outside of Korea |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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I'd rather teach and impart knowledge to my students then to have corporations sponging off my own and getting rich.
I'd teach in the States but I never got my teaching license. I have no desire to teach mostly lazy students in my country.
I left Korea after 10 years and double my money in other endeavours on top of having a current teaching position. |
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