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South Korea with world's least helpful husbands...
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AfroBurrito



Joined: 19 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:49 am    Post subject: South Korea with world's least helpful husbands... Reply with quote

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/south-korea/140403/the-developed-world-s-least-helpful-husbands
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metalhead



Joined: 18 May 2010
Location: Toilet

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes but be that as it may Korean men still believe in equality for all.
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jamesy



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: incheon, korea

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Showed this to my wife today - just to remind her what her life could have been like Very Happy
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to defend Korean men here. Korean men work very long hours. And a lot of married women don't work. So I think if the women are doing the majority of the household chores, that's reasonable.
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Chia Pet



Joined: 23 Jun 2013

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not fair that women are denied chances for promotion and equal income, but if a wife doesn't have to go to work and her husband works, she should do the housework. It seems pretty obvious. Likewise, if a wife works and her husband doesn't, he should do the housework.
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EZE



Joined: 05 May 2012

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
I'd like to defend Korean men here. Korean men work very long hours. And a lot of married women don't work.


THIS.
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metalhead



Joined: 18 May 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Korean men work long hours, but who came up with that system in the first place? Korean women? No.
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joelove



Joined: 12 May 2011

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

metalhead wrote:
Yes but be that as it may Korean men still believe in equality for all.


Sure, being so humble and so hard-working, there is no interest in maintaining any kind of hierarchy, and thus all are equal in the eyes of many Korean men, who walk around so meekly, speaking softly, never forcing opinions or commands on others, utterly lacking in self-importance based on age, gender, or social status. Nor is there an ounce of pettiness or resentment. It's understood that this recognition of all being equal is really for the best, and it fits well with the harmonious and low-stress nature of the culture, where no one has to conform to any outdated ideals.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

metalhead wrote:
Yeah, Korean men work long hours, but who came up with that system in the first place? Korean women? No.


Actually, given Korean women are famous for urging their husbands to work harder and earn more money, and even unmarried men have to meet the expectations of a potential wife regarding how much money they've saved in advance, women could be reasonably said to have a hand in it as well.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chia Pet wrote:
It's not fair that women are denied chances for promotion and equal income, but if a wife doesn't have to go to work and her husband works, she should do the housework. It seems pretty obvious. Likewise, if a wife works and her husband doesn't, he should do the housework.


Yup, that's exactly how it is in my household. Whoever is working less, does more at home.
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wolverine



Joined: 10 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a married Korean American with young children here in Korea, I guess I can be lumped into the "korean men" category in this post. I've been lucky to have a cushy University teaching position which allows me to spend alot of time with my family, hence I can say that I easily surpass the weekly 141 hour OECD average of helping out the wife with the household chores. I've also had the opportunity of befriending many of my oldest daughter's preschool friends fathers and also witnessing the life of my brother-in-law and I realized that unlike myself, these gentlemen work ghastly long hours and after hearing them talk on many occasions about their family, know that they are caring fathers who if they were at home more, would do more of their share of household chores. I know that most of them(I'm talking about the younger generation korean men), like my household and captain corea's from the above post, have a similar "whoever is doing less, does more at home" philosphy, I've seen it firsthand with my brother-in-law and male family members here. If we sit on our asses all day, our modern day korean wives would literally murder us. I don't think it's fair to trash korean men as whole as uncaring husbands and fathers.

Korea easily has the longest OECD working hours of any nation and their system, particularly the social welfare system is messed up and this needs to be changed. With the younger generation, I sense that alot of the cultural norms and values are changing for the better in this country regarding household contributions by the husbands.
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Chia Pet wrote:
It's not fair that women are denied chances for promotion and equal income, but if a wife doesn't have to go to work and her husband works, she should do the housework. It seems pretty obvious. Likewise, if a wife works and her husband doesn't, he should do the housework.


Yup, that's exactly how it is in my household. Whoever is working less, does more at home.


Same here, sort of. I do more cleaning than the wife does, but she does most of the shopping. That works out well for us.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a husband in Korea and I'm extremely helpful. That article is a crock.
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yodanole



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: La Florida

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another pointless, out of context, yet judgemental observation.
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wishfullthinkng



Joined: 05 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Yeah, Korean men work long hours, but who came up with that system in the first place? Korean women? No.


Actually, given Korean women are famous for urging their husbands to work harder and earn more money, and even unmarried men have to meet the expectations of a potential wife regarding how much money they've saved in advance, women could be reasonably said to have a hand in it as well.


this. the machine goes full circle folks.
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