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Why don't Koreans want to get big and strong?
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Zulethe



Joined: 04 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Why don't Koreans want to get big and strong? Reply with quote

Growing up as a kid in America, there was only one thing I wanted to be: big and strong.

Now that I've accomplished that, I'd like to continue to progress but for the life of me, I can't find any other Korean who wants to train for power and strength.

I work with three young male teachers at my school and none of them want to lift weights. They told me they don't want to build any muscle on their shapeless bodies.

I've even posted an advertisement at my gym with no takers.

What's the deal with this? I thought it was a universal feeling among males to want to be big and strong. A genetic passing from one generation to another originating in our hunter and gatherer past.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not just Koreans, but Asians in general.

Japan is a perfect example. Look at Japanese "anime". The HERO figure is always a normal, scrawny kid. Whereas in the Us, comic book characters and hero types are all big and muscular.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some muscle-heads take it too far and look frankly ridiculous. If we were meant to have vains outside out body, we'd be born as Stilton cheese.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...because there is really no need for all that muscle.

It would male sense if we lived in a violent macho society where you were expected to fight every weekend or if we were doing hard manual labor jobs. But that just isn't the case in Korea. Whats the point of being as strong as a bull when the only thing you'll be doing through the week is pushing a pen?
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Why don't Koreans want to get big and strong? Reply with quote

Zulethe wrote:
Growing up as a kid in America, there was only one thing I wanted to be: big and strong.

Now that I've accomplished that, I'd like to continue to progress but for the life of me, I can't find any other Korean who wants to train for power and strength.

I work with three young male teachers at my school and none of them want to lift weights. They told me they don't want to build any muscle on their shapeless bodies.

I've even posted an advertisement at my gym with no takers.

What's the deal with this? I thought it was a universal feeling among males to want to be big and strong. A genetic passing from one generation to another originating in our hunter and gatherer past.


3 Male teachers don't want to lift weights with you and therefore all Korean males don't want to get big and strong? That's a pretty big generalization.

Big and muscular was the "trendy" thing like 2-3 years back. Kim Jung Gook was all the rage. Now it's slim, lean, and fit muscle that's the trend. If you ask most Korean women what kind of body they like, they'll pretty much all say they don't like the big bulky muscle guy...they think Rain has the best body. A lot of guys out there are definitely "ripped" without being huge. Me personally, i'd rather be a Bruce Lee than an Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer to exercise my brain muscle and my liver muscle. Books and Booze.
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Tundra_Creature



Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm. It honestly all depends on the guy and area. I go to the gym at my dormitory as well as go to TKD, and the guys have a nice amount of muscle on them (not extreme Arnold, but I've never been a fan of that amount). I certainly have no complaints about it.

I was actually kinda surprised, because even the smaller guys at the gym were lifting weights and had some nice lean muscle packed on them. So could be that you're just hanging out with the wrong fellas. The girls on the other hand, I've never seen them touch a weight whilst I was in there, but then again, there weren't too many girls who did that back home either.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Korea, having developed muscles, much like having tanned skin, marks you as a farmer or physical laborer. It's definitely not seen as a sign of wealth or social status.

Higher-class men have thin or flabby/shapeless bodies because they don't have to do any physical work themselves.

Men of high social status used to even grow out their fingernails just to show off the fact that they don't have to work with their hands. A lot of men in China still do this.

Also, even the people who want to get big and strong here don't really know how to lift weights. It's not like anyone teaches them in school. At my high school in America we had a full gym that everyone could use for free, and the football coaches would supervise and teach you how to use the equipment. I walk in my apartment gym (which is also huge and well-equipped) and see tons of guys using the equipment completely wrong.


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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually quite a few do try to get buff.....problem is, not all have the genes for it and give up....

I've seen some really buff old dudes at my gym.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last week I was flipping through the channels and saw a Korean body building competition.

a few months ago I went to a new park near dongmyo. They had free weights outside (including a bench) as part of the equipment, I saw a couple of guys lifting weights while I walking around.
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Zulethe



Joined: 04 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
...because there is really no need for all that muscle.

It would male sense if we lived in a violent macho society where you were expected to fight every weekend or if we were doing hard manual labor jobs. But that just isn't the case in Korea. Whats the point of being as strong as a bull when the only thing you'll be doing through the week is pushing a pen?


Ever been in Egypt when a Palestinian keeps following you asking very personal questions about your nationality when you get a scary feeling that he means you nothing but harm?

Ever been in mons, Belgium with a pack of Morocans following you yelling taunting insults?

Ever been on a date while being followed by three Korean dudes hurling insults at your date?

Ever been in a bar where a fight breaks out and you have to fight your way out of the bar?

If not then STFU!!!!
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
...because there is really no need for all that muscle.

It would male sense if we lived in a violent macho society where you were expected to fight every weekend or if we were doing hard manual labor jobs. But that just isn't the case in Korea. Whats the point of being as strong as a bull when the only thing you'll be doing through the week is pushing a pen?


you described N America pretty well there.

Zulethe wrote:

Ever been in Egypt when a Palestinian keeps following you asking very personal questions about your nationality when you get a scary feeling that he means you nothing but harm?

Ever been in mons, Belgium with a pack of Morocans following you yelling taunting insults?

Ever been on a date while being followed by three Korean dudes hurling insults at your date?

Ever been in a bar where a fight breaks out and you have to fight your way out of the bar?

If not then STFU!!!!


I think you may want to chill a bit, man. You asked why the average Korean man isn't into building up muscle and strength, and he gave you a decent answer.

If you've got reasons (as listed above), then all the power to you. But how do those examples help you in understanding the average Korean man? All those examples do, is show us that you've got experiences where you (think) you needed it.
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Hova



Joined: 19 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure where exactly you live, but at my gym in Jamsil there is a lot of yoked up guys. The whole looking huge and stacked look is slowly dying out. Even my gym in Seattle doesn't have many big guys anymore. I should ask though, what do you consider big? I weigh 178lb with 10% body fat and I would say I'm one of the bigger guys at my gym. I am definitely not the biggest though. There is a few lifers at my gym who compete in shows.

As someone mentioned before, people prefer to be lean and cut. I found this to be true in both Korea and America. I've seen some really cut guys at my gym in Korea and they only weigh 150lb-160lb. It's a good look and a good weight for them since a lot of Korean men are into fashion.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zulethe wrote:
Junior wrote:
...because there is really no need for all that muscle.

It would male sense if we lived in a violent macho society where you were expected to fight every weekend or if we were doing hard manual labor jobs. But that just isn't the case in Korea. Whats the point of being as strong as a bull when the only thing you'll be doing through the week is pushing a pen?


Ever been in Egypt when a Palestinian keeps following you asking very personal questions about your nationality when you get a scary feeling that he means you nothing but harm?

Ever been in mons, Belgium with a pack of Morocans following you yelling taunting insults?

Ever been on a date while being followed by three Korean dudes hurling insults at your date?

Ever been in a bar where a fight breaks out and you have to fight your way out of the bar?

If not then STFU!!!!


Better keep off the steroids there mr angry.

Dude prancing around like arnold schwarzenneger marks you out, at best as someone with too much time on his hands and an overdose of vanity,,. At worst women would assume you were personality-deficient and having to overcompensate.
You can pump iron for years but the moment you stop, then within a few weeks you have nothing to show for it except possibly a case of shrinkies. If you spent that time studying for a degree or learning a language then its a much wiser use of your time.


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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think being "cut" is better than being big. Think Bruce Lee body type versus Vin Diesel body.

Bruce Lee may not have been huge, but many many people will testify that he had power equal to a man twice his size.

Contrary to what many think, Korean women like guys with broad shoulders and 6 pack abs. Many young Korean women will tell you they don't like the scrawny guys. They will say they prefer guys with a "V" style body.
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