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nichgq
Joined: 15 Apr 2014
Location: Changnyeong, South Korea
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 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:31 pm Post subject: Changnyeong English Village |
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This is only intended to be informative.
Changnyeong English Village is a fantastic government run extra-curricular program in which students from different schools around Changnyeong County in central South Korea come to be instructed in the English language and Western culture in an immersive environment. We also feature online language exchange classes and advanced invitation-only classes focusing on finer parts of Western culture. Our normal working schedule is from 12:30-9 Monday through Thursday and Friday 12:30-6. In class teaching time is around 20 hours per week.
There are 8 foreign teachers who work at the school. This gives a great foundation of familiarity while being a stranger in a foreign land. That said there is no shortage of immersion into the korean lifestyle as our school is set in the backdrop of Korean common folk. Truthfully, it is one of the most beautiful places I've lived.
If you get a job offer to this school, you will be hard pressed to find a better job. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Changnyeong English Village |
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| nichgq wrote: |
| This is only intended to be informative. |
Given you evidently registered on this forum specifically to respond to a post complaining about your "employer" in 2008, and then decided to go a step further and spontaneously post a PR piece about how wonderful a working experience it is, it seems more likely that it's intended to be propaganda.
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If you get a job offer to this school |
Non-native speaker or just wasn't able to master prepositions after 20+ years of immersion in his own native language? |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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This is only intended to be informative.
Changnyeong English Village is a fantastic government run extra-curricular program in which students from different schools around Changnyeong County in central South Korea come to be instructed in the English language and Western culture in an immersive environment. We also feature online language exchange classes and advanced invitation-only classes focusing on finer parts of Western culture. Our normal working schedule is from 12:30-9 Monday through Thursday and Friday 12:30-6. In class teaching time is around 20 hours per week.
There are 8 foreign teachers who work at the school. This gives a great foundation of familiarity while being a stranger in a foreign land. That said there is no shortage of immersion into the korean lifestyle as our school is set in the backdrop of Korean common folk. Truthfully, it is one of the most beautiful places I've lived.
If you get a job offer to this school, you will be hard pressed to find a better job. |
Sounds great, how do I apply for this job? |
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nichgq
Joined: 15 Apr 2014
Location: Changnyeong, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Changnyeong English Village |
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| Fox wrote: |
| nichgq wrote: |
| This is only intended to be informative. |
Given you evidently registered on this forum specifically to respond to a post complaining about your "employer" in 2008, and then decided to go a step further and spontaneously post a PR piece about how wonderful a working experience it is, it seems more likely that it's intended to be propaganda.
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If you get a job offer to this school |
Non-native speaker or just wasn't able to master prepositions after 20+ years of immersion in his own native language? |
Interesting that you would pick out the word 'to' to pick on. As far as it's prepositional agreement it fits in established english conventions, but maybe you've spent so long outside of the country that you've forgotten the diverse usage that is standard practice in your native country; or is it that your college education and blah years of experience teaching it a second language has hardened your focus to only textbook answers. Maybe it is just that you never spent any time around those less educated than yourself to realise that something as infinitesimal as that matters little to the subject verb agreement.
Regardless, my intention was to offer some information on my school. Is that propaganda? Yes. Would it make any difference if I had been on here 20 years? No. I joined for the express purpose of combating negativity regarding this school that stems from something that happened 6 years ago. All I ask is that it be taken at face value. |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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My only comment is that it hedges on being an advertisement, or promotion for the place rather than a defense or support. I guess the mods will have to determine whether it is 'simply talking about the place' or if it intends to be more than what it purports to be. No offense at you OP, I just know people have had their posts taken down for less when it appeared they were advertising a place. We will see. Cheers.  |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Changnyeong English Village |
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| nichgq wrote: |
| All I ask is that it be taken at face value. |
I can't do that. The more you write, the more you sound like a Korean to me, and your motive is simply too suspicious. Out of the recent rash of Koreans pretending to be foreigners your English is definitely the best, though, so take that as a compliment. Had you had the sense to register, build up an unrelated posting history for a few weeks, and only then engage in your white-washing campaign, you may have been successful. |
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nichgq
Joined: 15 Apr 2014
Location: Changnyeong, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| tob55 wrote: |
| My only comment is that it hedges on being an advertisement, or promotion for the place rather than a defense or support. I guess the mods will have to determine whether it is 'simply talking about the place' or if it intends to be more than what it purports to be. No offense at you OP, I just know people have had their posts taken down for less when it appeared they were advertising a place. We will see. Cheers. |
Oh, sorry, I guess I got overly defensive. I got away from paying attention to forums a long time ago because they got me angry. I guess some old habits die hard. It is good to have diligent people trying to keep the internet honest and free. Any ideas on how to make it sound less "advertisement-y" |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| tob55 wrote: |
| My only comment is that it hedges on being an advertisement, or promotion for the place rather than a defense or support. I guess the mods will have to determine whether it is 'simply talking about the place' or if it intends to be more than what it purports to be. No offense at you OP, I just know people have had their posts taken down for less when it appeared they were advertising a place. We will see. Cheers. |
Oh, sorry, I guess I got overly defensive. I got away from paying attention to forums a long time ago because they got me angry. I guess some old habits die hard. It is good to have diligent people trying to keep the internet honest and free. Any ideas on how to make it sound less "advertisement-y" |
Not trying to tell you how to edit, I was just mentioning to try and not make it look as if you were actively promoting for the place for whatever reason. You certainly have the right ot post as you see fit, but the Mods do at times take exception to people who promote their services and wares in places they should not be doing it. Cheers again. |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Changnyeong English Village |
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| nichgq wrote: |
This is only intended to be informative.
Changnyeong English Village is a fantastic government run extra-curricular program in which students from different schools around Changnyeong County in central South Korea come to be instructed in the English language and Western culture in an immersive environment. We also feature online language exchange classes and advanced invitation-only classes focusing on finer parts of Western culture. Our normal working schedule is from 12:30-9 Monday through Thursday and Friday 12:30-6. In class teaching time is around 20 hours per week.
There are 8 foreign teachers who work at the school. This gives a great foundation of familiarity while being a stranger in a foreign land. That said there is no shortage of immersion into the korean lifestyle as our school is set in the backdrop of Korean common folk. Truthfully, it is one of the most beautiful places I've lived.
If you get a job offer to this school, you will be hard pressed to find a better job. |
PM with email of current teachers please. Will confirm or deny.
This smells of total BS. You joined this week, decided to necro a thread from 6 years ago that was trashing your school, and defend it vehemently. Why?
As a NET you would gain nothing from this.
People have terrible experiences at places for a reason. Practices at Hakwons stay the same until the owners run them into the ground. If they tried to cheat NETs 6 years ago, they are probably still cheating NETs now. You might not know any better as a noobie (if you are a NET), but I can almost guarantee it is happening.. your defense of the school makes it even more likely. |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:34 am Post subject: Re: Changnyeong English Village |
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| Fox wrote: |
| nichgq wrote: |
| All I ask is that it be taken at face value. |
I can't do that. The more you write, the more you sound like a Korean to me, and your motive is simply too suspicious. Out of the recent rash of Koreans pretending to be foreigners your English is definitely the best, though, so take that as a compliment. Had you had the sense to register, build up an unrelated posting history for a few weeks, and only then engage in your white-washing campaign, you may have been successful. |
Also this ^^ Fox on the ball |
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wanderkind
Joined: 01 Jan 2012
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| This is a good job and my employer has been nothing less than a friend and a mentor to me during my time here. |
Funny, that's just the sort of thing...a Korean would say!
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| ...If I sound like a Korean I guess it is because I've spent so much time with them that I have picked up on their mannerisms. |
So much time with them, say...22+ years?
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| I guess I'll get faulted for that and for the rookie mistake of joining for a reason other than finding the best drinking spot. |
Hey! Whoa! No need to make things personal... Low blow...  |
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wanderkind
Joined: 01 Jan 2012
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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Now, I was just being facetious above, but I actually am sort of the 'suspect you're a Korean employee of the EV' opinion. But not because of any grammar mistakes
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| Non-native speaker or just wasn't able to master prepositions after 20+ years of immersion in his own native language? |
come on Fox, there's reams of posts on here with horrendous grammar and spelling, yet their NET chops don't get put on trial. Actually, the reason I think the OP is Korean is because their posts are more formally phrased and cleanly crafted than I'd expect from a native speaker on an internet forum. Anonymity usually results in more casual delivery.
Also, I don't think at any point they've stated explicitly that they're a foreigner working there, to the extent it seems intentionally vague (maybe that's my conspiracy theorist acting up). Which would suggest a certain degree of honesty (in that they didn't say "I'm TOTALLY a foreigner").
| nichgq wrote: |
| All I ask is that it be taken at face value. |
Fair enough, but this is an anonymous internet forum. 'Face value' here isn't much to go on (...you know...cause we can't see your face). For all we know, you're the school's HR person trying to whitewash bad press only after it has made hiring new teachers difficult for you.
So, nichgq, brass tacks:
A) Are you a native English speaker from abroad currently employed by the EV as an English teacher?
B) Are you able to substantiate this in some way? (PM contact details of current teachers to an established forum member as SeoulNate suggested, or linking a picture of yourself by the school gate holding something proof-of-life-style that says "I'm a foreign employee here making these statements under no duress."? [although, if you're a gyopo...that's trickier] If you have a sense of humour, you might also tape up your hands and mouth.)
C) If you're a Korean employee of the school, genuinely trying to inform the (English teaching) public about a good workplace suffering from a bad reputation, refer to B.
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| Had you had the sense to register, build up an unrelated posting history for a few weeks, and only then engage in your white-washing campaign, you may have been successful. |
I disagree, I don't think the better course of action would have been to be more sneaky/duplicitous, but rather more transparent.
If you're a foreign employee, expect that a new member here expounding the virtues of their hagwon will be met with skepticism. You'll need to back up your claims somehow.
If you're a Korean employee, don't cagily avoid mentioning that fact, explain your position (job), make the points you want to make, and substantiate it. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:44 am Post subject: |
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come on Fox, there's reams of posts on here with horrendous grammar and spelling, yet their NET chops don't get put on trial. |
That's because those grammar and spelling errors are not usually accompanied by blatantly suspicious conduct. Also, native English speakers and Korean English speakers tend to have different characteristic errors. Articles and prepositions in particular tend to be where Koreans mess up, as well as strange vocabulary usage. But, like I said, his English is quite good; if it weren't for his suspicious behavior, I probably wouldn't have said anything.
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| Also, I don't think at any point they've stated explicitly that they're a foreigner working there |
He did explicitly claim it in the thread in which he initially posted, didn't he? Said he'd been teaching there a little over a year I thought, and insisted he only sounded Korean because he spends so much time with them. |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| wanderkind wrote: |
| Also, I don't think at any point they've stated explicitly that they're a foreigner working there |
He did explicitly claim it in the thread in which he initially posted, didn't he? Said he'd been teaching there a little over a year I thought, and insisted he only sounded Korean because he spends so much time with them. |
This, and yes, Fox is correct. I had the pleasure of interacting with him/her/it in the other thread as well.
Either way, seems to have given up now..
so...
ding-dong the witch is dead, the wicked witch! Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!
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RangerMcGreggor
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
Location: Somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:48 am Post subject: Re: Changnyeong English Village |
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| nichgq wrote: |
Interesting that you would pick out the word 'to' to pick on. As far as it's prepositional agreement it fits in established english conventions, but maybe you've spent so long outside of the country that you've forgotten the diverse usage that is standard practice in your native country; or is it that your college education and blah years of experience teaching it a second language has hardened your focus to only textbook answers. Maybe it is just that you never spent any time around those less educated than yourself to realise that something as infinitesimal as that matters little to the subject verb agreement.
Regardless, my intention was to offer some information on my school. Is that propaganda? Yes. Would it make any difference if I had been on here 20 years? No. I joined for the express purpose of combating negativity regarding this school that stems from something that happened 6 years ago. All I ask is that it be taken at face value. |
For craps sake, you even talk like someone who isn't native. Who the heck says infinitesimal? Who the hell knew that was actually a word until now? And the usage of "blah years" is something how a Korean would say it, not a native speaker. Throw in the standard "take 50 years to get to their point" writing style and extremely formal and overly academic diction , it's pretty obvious you aren't a native English speaker. |
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