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Lucas
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 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:14 pm Post subject: Pope to wash the feet of Korean 'comfort women' |
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I can see one of the Korean 'tour guides' now:
'no no Mr Pope, her feet verrrryyyyyyy dirty, please washeeeeeeeeeee'
On tomorrow of all days. This would be one of the finest propaganda coupes in Korean history if they get him to do it.
(even though it should be on the 13th!) |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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Well, today the Pope announced: Not having a war, doesn't mean there's peace. The comfort women were invited to the mess at MyungDong cathedral. The Japanese press were busy painting that as aKorean initiative. What is known is that Japanese PM Abe and President Park both invited the Pope for a visit. The Pope chose Korea and is not visiting Japan. In politicospeak, that's known as 'Slap in the Face'. The Pope also made an overture to PR of China as well. China has been regularly releasing confessions by the Japanese soldiers of the atrocities that they commited during 37-45 war. That's equivalent to a 'Swift Knee in the Groin' by the papacy. Hasn't been a good day for Japan. 
Meanwhile, ROKA artillery gave a 21 gun salut for the Pope. North Korea did even better. They gave 5 salvos of their MLRS rockets. |
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rollo
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A very symbolic visit as Andrew Chon pointed out. A definite slap at japan.
More importantly he is visiting a country which is still at war. Also he flew over Chinese airspace and sent a message to China's leader Xi. A papal visit to China would be a huge thing.
Papal travels bring the worlds media so if he did was hte feet of comfort women the story gets world attention and brings up Japans ugly past.
Perhaps all the attention might just get the U.s. China, Korea Japan and Russia thinking about a real peace in the region and a better solution than a divided Korea. |
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aq8knyus
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| andrewchon wrote: |
Well, today the Pope announced: Not having a war, doesn't mean there's peace. The comfort women were invited to the mess at MyungDong cathedral. The Japanese press were busy painting that as aKorean initiative. What is known is that Japanese PM Abe and President Park both invited the Pope for a visit. The Pope chose Korea and is not visiting Japan. In politicospeak, that's known as 'Slap in the Face'. The Pope also made an overture to PR of China as well. China has been regularly releasing confessions by the Japanese soldiers of the atrocities that they commited during 37-45 war. That's equivalent to a 'Swift Knee in the Groin' by the papacy. Hasn't been a good day for Japan.
Meanwhile, ROKA artillery gave a 21 gun salut for the Pope. North Korea did even better. They gave 5 salvos of their MLRS rockets. |
The PR aspect of it all is certainly a blow for the Japanese, but considering that the catholic population of Japan is so tiny it was not surprising.
Catholicism is a major religion in Korea and this visit could be great for getting the punters in along with their donations. |
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Neil
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Abe has already had a private audience with the pope a few months ago, so a follow up meeting so soon would be a bit pointless. There are about 400k Catholics in Japan out of 127 million, I really don't think anyone cares.
Whilst gushing sympathetically with the Chinese over historical slights and atrocities will his holiness enquiry as to why the greatest mass murderer of the 20th century is on their banknotes and why his atrocities have been whitewashed from history?
No? It's almost as if religious leaders are hypocrites. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
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Today, Jo Sumi will be singing for Pope at Daejeun. Wow. 40,000 stadium is packed to the rafters. This man is a rock-star.  |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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| Neil wrote: |
Abe has already had a private audience with the pope a few months ago, so a follow up meeting so soon would be a bit pointless. There are about 400k Catholics in Japan out of 127 million, I really don't think anyone cares.
Whilst gushing sympathetically with the Chinese over historical slights and atrocities will his holiness enquiry as to why the greatest mass murderer of the 20th century is on their banknotes and why his atrocities have been whitewashed from history?
No? It's almost as if religious leaders are hypocrites. |
Good point. And let's not forget that this pope, and the church hierarchy, desperately wants the world to look away from the Catholic Church's own, much more recent, crimes against innocents. And let's also not forget that his church is also a dictatorship. It's the last vestige of the European 'divine rights of kings' phenomenon. As the (undeservedly) admired pope John Paul II said, "The church is not, and cannot be, a democracy." The Church's legacy of human suffering is long. Vatican City itself is the product of a concordat with Mussolini. Catholic countries have, until very recently, been ruled by right wing military dictatorships under the protection of the church. Even Adolf Hitler, a life-long Catholic, failed to be excommunicated from the Church. Galileo yes. Hitler, no.
The Catholic Church is morally bankrupt. Noone need take its admonitions or rebukes seriously.
Nice buildings though. |
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Weigookin74
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| aq8knyus wrote: |
| andrewchon wrote: |
Well, today the Pope announced: Not having a war, doesn't mean there's peace. The comfort women were invited to the mess at MyungDong cathedral. The Japanese press were busy painting that as aKorean initiative. What is known is that Japanese PM Abe and President Park both invited the Pope for a visit. The Pope chose Korea and is not visiting Japan. In politicospeak, that's known as 'Slap in the Face'. The Pope also made an overture to PR of China as well. China has been regularly releasing confessions by the Japanese soldiers of the atrocities that they commited during 37-45 war. That's equivalent to a 'Swift Knee in the Groin' by the papacy. Hasn't been a good day for Japan.
Meanwhile, ROKA artillery gave a 21 gun salut for the Pope. North Korea did even better. They gave 5 salvos of their MLRS rockets. |
The PR aspect of it all is certainly a blow for the Japanese, but considering that the catholic population of Japan is so tiny it was not surprising.
Catholicism is a major religion in Korea and this visit could be great for getting the punters in along with their donations. |
Considering the Japanese are pure a holes for continuing to deny the "comfort women" issue, good for the Pope. (I'm not Catholic BTW.) |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
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| No objection to charges of corruption and whatnot to the Roman Catholic church. There's plenty Vatican needs to apologize for. IMO the Roman church has made some progress since John XXIII and his Vatican Council II. I think Pope Francis' pastoral outlook make him appear to be the successor to John XXIII. However, Pope Frankie has re-affirmed the Vatican's stance against abortion, contraception and gay-marriage, so I'm not that optimistic about his future sainthood. |
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