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Corporate spending on call girls and karaoke soars
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cmxc



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:59 am    Post subject: Corporate spending on call girls and karaoke soars Reply with quote

Corporate spending on call girls and karaoke soars
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2014/08/123_163106.html

Given that Korean females continue to have a significantly greater likelihood of becoming a prostitute than becoming a manager at a Korean company, how should the Korean education system do more to improve the situation for women in Korea?

How can the foreign ESL instructor community benefit its female students?
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:22 am    Post subject: Re: Corporate spending on call girls and karaoke soars Reply with quote

cmxc wrote:
Given that Korean females continue to have a significantly greater likelihood of becoming a prostitute than becoming a manager at a Korean company

In all honesty, a guy is more likely to be prostitute too, than a manager at a Korean company. Becoming a manager is hard, maybe 1 in 1000, get to be managers. That is if they were lucky enough to be in the 1 in 2000 to enter the white collar world of Samsung, or LG every 6 months.
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know there are different levels of management in your average company and lots of different departments right? I somehow doubt a company of 1000 people would only have a total of one manager.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"In 2004, the government passed an anti-prostitution law that prohibits the buying or selling of sex services."

Then promptly went to a brothel to celebrate. The problem could be that Korean men are taught to be women haters, and Korean women aren't empowered enough yet to do anything about it.
Or it could be that the women are using what they were given by nature and plastic surgeons to get some quick cash.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:45 am    Post subject: Re: Corporate spending on call girls and karaoke soars Reply with quote

cmxc wrote:
Given that Korean females continue to have a significantly greater likelihood of becoming a prostitute than becoming a manager at a Korean company, how should the Korean education system do more to improve the situation for women in Korea?


Why do you assume it needs "improvement"?
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liveinkorea316



Joined: 20 Aug 2010
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt there was much of an increase worth putting in a headline. More likely better auditing and disclosure is picking up spending that was previously unrecorded.

The article said a 50% jump. It's more likely 5-10% increased and 40% that they found wasn't being recorded.
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why do you assume it needs "improvement"?


The more prostitutes there are, the more a country is 'exciting' for you personally, right?
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Stain



Joined: 08 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
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Why do you assume it needs "improvement"?


The more prostitutes there are, the more a country is 'exciting' for you personally, right?


Well, edward, in all honesty, it might be a bit more "exciting".
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read the article and it is really much ado about nothing. Of course prostitution is the oldest profession in the world (at least I have been told that), and laws tend to do little to affect the continual quest for people to be satisfied in some way when they are being 'entertained.'

It appears that the author of the article was actually attempting to make a point about something else when referring to the topic of the writing. The last few statements in the article point to contact and communication with the NTS for other apparent reasons than just wanting people to know the executives at the big corporations are just a bunch of sex crazed horndogs. Go back an read the article, then let me know what you think.
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, edward, in all honesty, it might be a bit more "exciting".


Yeah? I just find it a bit squalid to be honest. But I realise I'm in the minority.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=232971&highlight=prostitution
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt it's increased; it's just being reported now. I'm sure it was prob worse 20 or 30 years ago. Women in Korea are slowly becoming aware of their rights, but it's a long steady climb. I did read before the 2008 financial crash that some big companies were taking their top brokers out to hooker sex parties and the feds did nothing about it. Prob more tame than here or other countries, but nonetheless, it'll only change if people demand it change and holler about it in the streets.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
I doubt it's increased; it's just being reported now. I'm sure it was prob worse 20 or 30 years ago. Women in Korea are slowly becoming aware of their rights, but it's a long steady climb. I did read before the 2008 financial crash that some big companies were taking their top brokers out to hooker sex parties and the feds did nothing about it. Prob more tame than here or other countries, but nonetheless, it'll only change if people demand it change and holler about it in the streets.

If anything, it's been on a steady decline the last 10-ish years. The government has upped their monitoring of public companies. Public being government corporations, and publicly traded companies (companies with stocks that anyone can buy). And the media every year is getting ever more so free (despite what young Koreans think).

I remember celebrating the end of a teacher's class with my ct and the students (students being other teachers). We were told we couldn't buy booze on the school's card. But we went to a noraebang. Next morning, my ct and I were called into the admin office and the head admin told us noraebangs were no longer allowed to be charged to the school (unless under specific circumstance), and also plastic bags. So we had to cough up like 30,000 won. Couldn't believe the plastic bag part, how do you carry your class snacks out of the market? So we also coughed up like 100-won for plastic bags.

And for those who wonder whose money is used for all those school dinners. It comes out of teacher's pockets with those monthly payments they make into some 'party' fund. Before it all came out of school funds.

Private companies essentially have free rein, but that's always been the case all over the world.
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Enduro



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I worked at a PS years ago and we would go out for the school dinner, it would eventually split up with all the male teachers and female teachers heading off to somewhere different. The head teacher of the school, who was female, would always accompany the male teachers. I was told later that it was an attempt to thwart any plans for getting hookers.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enduro wrote:
When I worked at a PS years ago and we would go out for the school dinner, it would eventually split up with all the male teachers and female teachers heading off to somewhere different. The head teacher of the school, who was female, would always accompany the male teachers. I was told later that it was an attempt to thwart any plans for getting hookers.

When I first started, I saw quite a bit this. I started at a private-public all boys middle/high school in the country side. Where of the 100, or so teachers, there was a grand total of 4 female teachers (not including the admin staff). I tell you, some of the girls (hookers/'coffee' girls) they brought in were hot hot hot... And some of the head honchos would be there. Like the local office of education heads, principals, school owner, head of the pta, etc... But later on, it was less and less, and these days it's getting rarer, afaik at the schools I've been at.

They started cracking down around 2000. Private schools would get audited every 2 years, public schools every 4-ish.

Most of the young male teachers at my current school just want to drink a few beers and go to the local PC bang and play LoL... lol
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Enduro



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was out in the boonies in Paju. Most of the girls looked like you could push their face into a batch of cookie dough and make gorilla cookies
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