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cmxc
Joined: 19 May 2008
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:48 am Post subject: Korea Times - Korea is hell on earth |
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The Korea Times sometimes wows me with their ability to tell it straight.
Now don't get me wrong, most of the time it's a low quality newspaper that fawns over anything Korean, especially Samsung, and loves to practice yellow journalism against foreign residents of Korea. However, every once in a while, it just nails it and criticizes Korea as strongly as any foreign person ever could.
Here is a quote from an article about the need for Korea to improve its attractions for tourists:
“What drives Koreans abroad so much, then?
One reason may be the urge to escape ‘social stress’ ― the nation is a frantic-paced society marked by all kinds of conflicts between different classes and ideological groups, rampant corruption, cutthroat competition from the cradle to grave, an oppressive government, a regressive democracy, an economy dominated by a handful of conglomerates, constant threats from the anachronistic regime in the North, etc. This is a hell on earth, albeit an exciting one, so Koreans seem to long to find a paradise abroad, however boring it may be.”
Read the rest:
Overseas travel spending
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2014/07/202_162089.html |
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optik404

Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:55 am Post subject: |
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No wonder you got banned from marmots hole. You basically scan the internet for any article criticizing Korea and you troll with it. |
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misher
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:24 am Post subject: |
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I'll never forget what one of my good Korean friends said:
Canada is boring heaven. Korea is interesting hell. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Korea is interesting hell |
maybe if you're a Korean. As a foreigner living here I find it neither interesting nor infernal. Most Koreans when asked will say they like living in Korea because they're Korean and their friends and family live here. Not much else. Apart from when they say things like 'I live in Suwon, my city is very beautiful' etc..which I just assume is down to a lack of vocabulary. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:50 am Post subject: |
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I always find it confusing that for example a Korean living in Manhattan can call it "a dry desert" and think that living anywhere in Korea is so much more interesting. And IMO it's not an exaggeration to say many Koreans share that opinion.
I've also heard the comment "It's too quiet" regarding living in the U.S. Canada, New Zealand, etc. |
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johnny_russian
Joined: 24 Dec 2012
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:30 am Post subject: |
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Poor infrastructure ― worn-out facilities, a dearth of attractions, cheap, rather dirty lodges ― is the main culprit. |
completely agree with this here. so many places near tourist attractions are just complete shitholes.
i was recently in Wando, which is a really beautiful island, but the problem is that all the infrastructure there is crumbling. one of the beaches i went to there was great but then right next to it you've got trash lying everywhere and run-down buildings on the boardwalk. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:44 am Post subject: |
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The problem with Korea is that it is full of Koreans and their han. I have never met a Korean who is truly happy. It's like they crave misery and adversity. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:53 am Post subject: |
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edwardcatflap wrote: |
As a foreigner living here I find it neither interesting nor infernal. |
cj1976 wrote: |
The problem with Korea is that it is full of Koreans and their han. I have never met a Korean who is truly happy. It's like they crave misery and adversity. |
Right.
Most waygukin are here for the lifestyle or earnings it affords them, not for any love of Korean culture.
Rather they stay comfortable by limiting their contact with Koreans. |
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jcd
Joined: 13 Mar 2012
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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I don't agree with the characterization of Korea, too negative. This article is a sneaky way to compliment Korea. It's exciting and other countries are boring? I don't see the excitement. If excitement is yell talking when you want to do something simple like buy some fruit, then wow thrilling. Also many other countries are more exciting like all of them in southeast asia and south america. |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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I'm no apologist, but I wouldn't describe Korea as "hell". That's just absurd. Id guess, like someone above, that it's a set up to compliment Korea. "It's hell, but by gosh isn't hell exciting?" And yes we've all heard that Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc. are ""boring heaven" while Korea is "exciting hell". Although I couldn't be bothered reading the article, I'd assume it's the adjective we're supposed to focus on not the noun.
Saying Korea is "hell" is taking things way to far. I'm have some very bad experiences in Korea (when it felt like hell at that time) but to describe life here as hell is just nuts.
Plenty of things I don't like though. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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It's all the hofs and noraebangs that make Korea exciting. Without their excessive drinking culture, Koreans don't have much else to do. |
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geldedgoat
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Chaparrastique wrote: |
Rather they stay comfortable by limiting their contact with Koreans. |
Curious. I found my path to comfort through limiting contact with foreigners. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Rather they stay comfortable by limiting their contact with Koreans.
Curious. I found my path to comfort through limiting contact with foreigners. |
Isn't that the same thing, or have you gone so native you're referring to non Koreans as a 'foreigners'? |
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Stu_miller
Joined: 23 Apr 2014
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:08 am Post subject: |
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edwardcatflap wrote: |
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Rather they stay comfortable by limiting their contact with Koreans.
Curious. I found my path to comfort through limiting contact with foreigners. |
Isn't that the same thing, or have you gone so native you're referring to non Koreans as a 'foreigners'? |
It's not the same thing. If you live in Korea, then anybody not from Korea is a foreigner. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:41 am Post subject: |
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It's not the same thing. If you live in Korea, then anybody not from Korea is a foreigner. |
Obviously it depends on the context. Personally I rarely use the word 'foreigner' myself, generally preferring to label people by nationality when necessary. When I need to group non-Koreans living in Korea I tend to say 'Westerners' because it's usually in some context of comparing one general culture to another. When I talk about the people I want to hang out with I'm not prejudice so I wouldn't say I like to be in contact with one nationality or another. I choose people I get on best and have the most in common with. |
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