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Public Schools and Universities Stealing Billions of Dollars

 
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:42 pm    Post subject: Public Schools and Universities Stealing Billions of Dollars Reply with quote

Just got word from our administration that our severance money that goes into the annuity fund is in danger of being wiped out due to money mismanagement of public schools, National Universities and the like. Wonder if anyone else received the notice?

Here is the link to the article:

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2012/01/137_103727.html

This should prove to be an interesting development. I know I stand to lose more than 10 million KRW if it happens, since the National University I work at started keeping my money 3 years ago. It only affects 'contract' workers, and it does not affect regular administration or tenured professors. Of course they want to protect their own interests, hmmm.

Let me know what you think.

I placed this here because it really does affect the general aspects of living in the country as much, if not more than it focuses simply on employment related concerns.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering the simple fact that "severance" & pension (or the equivalent in the case of private universities) is a requirement under the various labor laws you have rights to the assets should they default AND you have the government there (obligated) to assist you in collecting it as "unpaid wages".

Universities are going to be squeezed but the liability is still there for them to meet (as required by law).

I can see a whole lot of cutbacks, losses of perks and tuition increases in the near future.

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Seon-bee



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: ROK

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This link is about student support fees, as in universities nickel and diming students by adding extra fees onto tuition bills. I don't see the connection to teachers' pensions.
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seon-bee wrote:
This link is about student support fees, as in universities nickel and diming students by adding extra fees onto tuition bills. I don't see the connection to teachers' pensions.


According to our administrator, the funding agency responsible for 'holding' the severance pay has gone bankrupt, i.e. they are insolvent and unable to operate, so they have filed for protection. This means any money owed to students must be collected in any way deemed appropriate. This includes the severance pay that foreign faculty and contract Korean workers normally have set aside to receive when they end their employment at the University. Severance in this regard is not considered pension, although employees have the right to delay payment of it in the same way pension is provided. At the end of the day, the money is very much in danger of being whisked away if the Supreme Court upholds the ruling regarding student fees. That's what the connection is, and it is very real. I have spoken to someone who is an Appeals Court Judge and he assured me that this could play out with a lot of people losing money that was placed in the trust of the institutions they are currently working for.
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happiness



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, our pension money may be wiped out? it cant be that simple?
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tob55 wrote:
Seon-bee wrote:
This link is about student support fees, as in universities nickel and diming students by adding extra fees onto tuition bills. I don't see the connection to teachers' pensions.


According to our administrator, the funding agency responsible for 'holding' the severance pay has gone bankrupt, i.e. they are insolvent and unable to operate, so they have filed for protection. This means any money owed to students must be collected in any way deemed appropriate. This includes the severance pay that foreign faculty and contract Korean workers normally have set aside to receive when they end their employment at the University. Severance in this regard is not considered pension, although employees have the right to delay payment of it in the same way pension is provided. At the end of the day, the money is very much in danger of being whisked away if the Supreme Court upholds the ruling regarding student fees. That's what the connection is, and it is very real. I have spoken to someone who is an Appeals Court Judge and he assured me that this could play out with a lot of people losing money that was placed in the trust of the institutions they are currently working for.


Do you mean the private teachers pension that some unis do? The one that jumps in payouts after 5/10 years etc? I'm confused by the use of the word severance.

I can't see how they could take that. It is literally on my pay check when it comes out each month. It is not an extra severance pay.
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