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Any chance for a Greek Cypriot (Cyprus passport holder)?

 
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alex112gr



Joined: 23 Aug 2014

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:19 am    Post subject: Any chance for a Greek Cypriot (Cyprus passport holder)? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I understand that it is much easier for passport of 'the 6' countries where English spoken as a native language (Canada, USA, UK, New Zealand, Australia, Ireland) to get a job in Korea, but how about other European nationalities? I am Greek Cypriot, thus Cyprus passport holder. Is there a chance I can land a job in Korea or am I just wasting my time?
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a question of "much easier" to teach english here, but a case of strict immigration requirement. Sorry. Your passport disqualifies you.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:05 am    Post subject: Re: Any chance for a Greek Cypriot (Cyprus passport holder)? Reply with quote

alex112gr wrote:
Hi all,

I understand that it is much easier for passport of 'the 6' countries where English spoken as a native language (Canada, USA, UK, New Zealand, Australia, Ireland) to get a job in Korea, but how about other European nationalities? I am Greek Cypriot, thus Cyprus passport holder. Is there a chance I can land a job in Korea or am I just wasting my time?


Not possible in Korea due to immigration restrictions. Passport AND degree MUST be from one of the "7" approved countries.

If you hold a valid bachelor's degree AND have a valid TOEIC/IELTS/TOEFL certificate (those are proficiency tests NOT a TEFL (teaching certificate)) then MOST of SE Asia and China is open to you.

A valid TEFL/CELTA certificate would be a bonus and is a requirement for China.

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alex112gr



Joined: 23 Aug 2014

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:10 am    Post subject: Thanks! Reply with quote

I hold a bachelors degree from Greece and two masters, one in the UK and one in the USA and I also have the CELTA. My problem is that none of my three degrees is on teaching and obviously the important problem is that my passport disqualifies me, so that totally answers the question.

Thank you all for your quick replies and for helping me avoid wasting my time. I'll aim for Japan in the future, though I know my chances there are pretty thin.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most places won't want to hire you as an English teacher first of all because they can't do it legally but also because it's doesn't give them any marketing advantage. Marketing is the number one reason that they hire native English speakers.

If you're here in person then you might find a place that would officially hire you to teach Greek. You might also get a job doing some other field of work. Are you qualified for anything else?

Are you specifically set on going to Korea?
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alex112gr



Joined: 23 Aug 2014

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:27 am    Post subject: You are being so helpful right now... Reply with quote

Teach Greek in Korea? I would gladly do it, both modern and ancient Greek but never crossed my mind that anyone would be interested. Which institutions you think would be interested in teaching Greek?

I studied law and philosophy but I am not interested in being a court room lawyer, I am more interested in the academic side of things, which means teaching. I would be happy to teach international law and/or philosophy of law, but that is still teaching, so my passport disqualifies me, right?
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: You are being so helpful right now... Reply with quote

alex112gr wrote:
Teach Greek in Korea? I would gladly do it, both modern and ancient Greek but never crossed my mind that anyone would be interested. Which institutions you think would be interested in teaching Greek?

I studied law and philosophy but I am not interested in being a court room lawyer, I am more interested in the academic side of things, which means teaching. I would be happy to teach international law and/or philosophy of law, but that is still teaching, so my passport disqualifies me, right?




One night I received a frantic call from my friend at a very trendy bar in Seoul.

Him: "You've got to hurry and get up here!"

Me: "It's 11:30pm, I'm watching a movie, forget it"

Him: "I need you right now! I met a Korean girl that worked for the embassy in Greece, I told her I'm Greek and she speaks the language, now I don't know what to do!"

Me: "Is she hot?"

Him: Get your ass down here man!

So I go down to JJ M's, meet this girl, and she actually spoke Greek. I couldn't believe it. We talked for about an hour. Got her number.

She knew my friend was full of shit too. Haha.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: You are being so helpful right now... Reply with quote

alex112gr wrote:
Teach Greek in Korea? I would gladly do it, both modern and ancient Greek but never crossed my mind that anyone would be interested. Which institutions you think would be interested in teaching Greek?

I studied law and philosophy but I am not interested in being a court room lawyer, I am more interested in the academic side of things, which means teaching. I would be happy to teach international law and/or philosophy of law, but that is still teaching, so my passport disqualifies me, right?


Your passport disqualifies you from teaching English, not from teaching.
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thrylos



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: You are being so helpful right now... Reply with quote

alex112gr wrote:
Teach Greek in Korea? I would gladly do it, both modern and ancient Greek but never crossed my mind that anyone would be interested. Which institutions you think would be interested in teaching Greek?

I studied law and philosophy but I am not interested in being a court room lawyer, I am more interested in the academic side of things, which means teaching. I would be happy to teach international law and/or philosophy of law, but that is still teaching, so my passport disqualifies me, right?


Megale,

The only place that I know of that teaches (modern) Greek is HUFS (Hankook Wei-dae), Yongin Campus. There are 2 teachers there, one is Ambrosios, Mitropolitis of St Nicholas Church in Seoul, and the other teacher is his current lackey (whoever he or she is).

They have the Greek language monopoly there, he's a PhD in Theology, the other one is also Church-related, a certified Greek teacher helping Koreans learn Greek (mainly for Church, bebaia), but changes every couple of years once the posting is over.

That aside, you could get a E-1 type of teaching job, which would mean getting hired as a 'visiting prof' in a department that you're interested in (Law/Phil, etc), assuming they want to offer English-language courses in their field. You would not be a 'language teacher/instructor/professor', but hired as a specialist in your MA field. A Cypriot passport wouldn't exclude you from that route. Tourkika milas; Probably a better chance with that here! Embarassed Laughing Shocked

Kaly tyxi,
Thrylos (Gate 7)
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex112gr wrote:
Teach Greek in Korea? I would gladly do it, both modern and ancient Greek but never crossed my mind that anyone would be interested. Which institutions you think would be interested in teaching Greek?

I studied law and philosophy but I am not interested in being a court room lawyer, I am more interested in the academic side of things, which means teaching. I would be happy to teach international law and/or philosophy of law, but that is still teaching, so my passport disqualifies me, right?


Perhaps I should have put "teach Greek" in italics.

Unless you have some reason to go specifically to Korea, I would recommend looking for ELT work elsewhere. If you get a job here teaching English then it will likely be completely off the books (which is a bit risky because you'll have no protection if the school decides to fire you or withhold your pay (and there is a minor possibility that immigration will nab you). It's also possible that they might get you a visa for one purpose (e.g. entertainment). That wouldn't be much better because you still couldn't complain to the labor board since you would clearly be doing work not covered by your visa.

These are all the sorts of things that backpackers do. Arrive. Teach for a few months. Move along. They are willing to take the risks involved. I would guess that if you went to the trouble of getting a CELTA then you probably want something more long term and stable.
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Naliamegod



Joined: 28 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: You are being so helpful right now... Reply with quote

Died By Bear wrote:


One night I received a frantic call from my friend at a very trendy bar in Seoul.

Him: "You've got to hurry and get up here!"

Me: "It's 11:30pm, I'm watching a movie, forget it"

Him: "I need you right now! I met a Korean girl that worked for the embassy in Greece, I told her I'm Greek and she speaks the language, now I don't know what to do!"

Me: "Is she hot?"

Him: Get your ass down here man!

So I go down to JJ M's, meet this girl, and she actually spoke Greek. I couldn't believe it. We talked for about an hour. Got her number.

She knew my friend was full of shit too. Haha.


Did you order greek in the bedroom later?

*rimshot*
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